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Old 03-13-2009 | 02:58 AM
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Yeah im bored, so I figured why not just answer back. The thread is dying anyways.
Old 03-14-2009 | 09:16 AM
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yes i did all te work myself, and i dont have any problems with water on the intake.

on another note, i still havent seen tc's with bolts on on the 180whp range, so i dont know where you get your numbers. also my tq is as if because i have a light weight flywheel. and no i will not get rid of the apex safc because its actually working for me since it gained me some whp and it fixed the air/fuel curve. so it is working, hopefully in the future i will put a better ecu, so i could tune ignition and vvti plus fix more the afr curve and i can accomplish 195ishwhp. remember not all dyno's read the same.

here are some dyno's of basic bolt on and they dont even get close to 175whp.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=86843
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=103795
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=104481
Old 03-15-2009 | 09:38 PM
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if it wasnt for some of us doing N/A or turbo setups and trying new things alot of us forum dependant people would not even know what would or would not work. so much props to you for trying something different and taking it a different route. the point of modding your car is to reach your own set goals for that car and yourself. if you do what you planned and accomplished what u wanted to accomplish and im tired about hearing whos fastest or who has more power and spent less or more, how about consentrating on suspension set ups and improving your skill as a driver than just throwing a turbo or charger and hope u win, we can all learn from our fellow auto x forum members
Old 03-16-2009 | 04:22 AM
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I have always wondered what this setup would put out for our motors and its a shame that its so low but I feel like a better more capable tune could yield better results. This just cant be for real... and if it is then yeah Im glad I got to see the results before I possibly followed this route. Great job for doing this though! Youre the first I believe to throw them pistons in there. Thats what I wanted to see most. Keep going brother! Get an intake manifold, cams, and better management and I"ll bet you'll put out very nice n/a numbers.
Old 03-16-2009 | 01:06 PM
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hes not the first.. i was... and i got way better numbers... pls do more research ^^
Old 03-16-2009 | 01:17 PM
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what gains did you net ^^^
Old 03-16-2009 | 02:51 PM
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last dynoed on a mustang dyno at 198hp/197tq
Old 03-17-2009 | 06:57 AM
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yes he was the first, and those are some amazing numbers good job tcpete. i know i can achieve that if i had a fullyprogramable ecu. but i dont so i stay with what i have, remember this project is not done for, my future mods are cams, hydra ecu or aem and bc cams. in the future i guarantee you guys youll se a tc making power all the way to 8krpm just like my friend sciongt35r turbo tc. but ill be n/a stay tuned....

and congrats to tcpete for those numbers........
i really would like to see that dyno sheet.....
Old 03-21-2009 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 10PieceNuggets
I dont care if he is faster than me. We drive SCION TCs. ECONOMY CARS. Even with boost we are SLOW. My dumb commnets? Hah ok, this is a forum, I can express my thoughts as I please.

Take your car back to the dealership if you think boosted tCs are slow. If a boosted tC is slow, then I guess watching an Evo, STI, S2K....etc..is like watching paint dry.

Good job Jimmy, I messaged you on Youtube the other day. Keep up the good work.
Old 03-21-2009 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 10PieceNuggets
You have a turbo tc. Good for you, if you are having fun with it then by all means, the tC has no potential. Its a FWD econo car that you can add a little pep to with a small turbo. Thats it. I am being ignorant? Whos the guy telling me to go get a hatchback civic. I probably will end up at the Honda forums, I rather pick up a 4 door Si, but honestly im just waiting on the Genesis coupe, or might just settle for an Evo X in the near future. A car with real potential, not our econo car. Dont get me wrong I love my tc, but I find it pointless to try to make fast.

326 HP on your FWD hopper is great, not knocking on you for that, you can be a little more mature, I dont care how many cars you have beat, you and me still drive a tC. Go figure.

Tell that to Chris Rado or PTuning (both took home championships last year). Or tell that to the 400whp cars that I have tied with or simple beat. Tell that to the 380whp Procharged 350z that another one of my friends beat with his boosted tC. And he is slightly slower than my tC.

You should go ahead and trade your tC in for sure, and let someone else worthy of having it extract their true potential.
Old 03-21-2009 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyjun
i want to see some reviews first on the intake manifold to see if i like what i see, but nonethe less i know i can achieve 200whp i just have to have the extra money to buy cams $700, valve train upgrade $400, hydra $1,900 wich i dont have right now. but ill get there, im trying to proof wrong to those that said that a n/a tc would be a waste of time. right know im at the same league as a stock trd charged tc with much more money less spent....

thanks again for all the nice comments...... i hope i helped the comunity for those who are going this route....
Actually you should be faster than a stock TRD s/c'er. I would take your setup over a stock s/c'er any day of the week.
Old 03-21-2009 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 10PieceNuggets
Do you know how much money WR used for that car? With the money they used you couldve used any car, they coudve picked a Ford Taurus and turned it into a 700hp machine.

Isnt the WR tC a RWD conversion as well?
WR tC RWD?......LOL were you here that? It's still FWD kid.
Old 03-21-2009 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by scikotictc232
id still take the scion. haha thats just cause it has grown on me. I have pushed mine to different levels than most and has really showed me how durable it is. i would not mind driving a scion over a subaru.
+1....I would take a modded tC over a stock STI. I appreciate it more when you build it rather than buy it. Besides it would have to cost a lot more than 30k for me to be satisfied with a stock car.
Old 03-21-2009 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by huslindan
so do you have a problem with sucking in water with no cone and the intake being open like that cuz i was going to do that to my car with a air break duck but keep the cone on it
You actually loose Hp in most cases by removing the filter.
Old 03-21-2009 | 07:38 PM
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Our cars are crappy 4 bangers, no need to hype up a few races, or few boosted (nicely) tCs. Thats like finding a needle in a haystack. No one who wants a powerhouse car would even think of using a tC as their platform. Yet the people who do, experiment and see what these cars can really do. Some people do and come out with great results though, such as Rado. Then again, you know expensive that is? I rather get a faster car stock and do a few mods here and there, plus itll get alot more respect than a tC.

You are doing good stuff with your car rhythm, I watch your topic all the time, but in todays world, right now, the tC is just your average platform, the new Civic.
Old 03-21-2009 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 10PieceNuggets
I rather get a faster car stock and do a few mods here and there, plus itll get alot more respect than a tC.
Wow. Your ignorance knows no bounds.

You think an already fast car i.e. STI/EVO/350Z with a few mods is gonna gain you respect?

ROFLMAO!

Then with your same logic, someone who drives a ferrari/lambo/porsche will probably have zero respect for any sti or evo you end up buying.

I'd rather see a slow stock car turned WHP BEAST! Than any car that is fast off the dealers lot.

Also. I think plenty of people have money (maybe not a lot, but enough to buy mods). How many people actually pick up a freaking toolbox and install their own sh!!!!t or actually research and learn to save themselves from n00b mistakes. Then come on here saying the TC is a crappy platform.

As travis already said. You should definitely just trade in the car your parents bought you, and get another platform. Oh and if you did happen to buy the tc, its just sad you didn't do your research in the first place, or maybe not enough of it. Hah.
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Originally Posted by 10PieceNuggets
the tC is just your average platform, the new Civic.
Is that supposed to be demeaning in some way? lol

Its a poor attempt at an insult. If anything.

The civic comment might be true. But hey the scion is a popular car. So in reality what is wrong with that?

Imagine if you had a child. Lets say he was short. Would you tell him, you know what, you can't play basketball, simply because he's short?

Its a rough analogy but i'm sure you get the meaning.

My best advice. Go watch "Pursuit of Happiness" or something similar and learn something.

Now back to our regular scheduled program ^^

On a side note. I would definitely take jimmyjun's car over a supercharged tc.
Old 03-21-2009 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 10PieceNuggets
Our cars are crappy 4 bangers, no need to hype up a few races, or few boosted (nicely) tCs. Thats like finding a needle in a haystack. No one who wants a powerhouse car would even think of using a tC as their platform. Yet the people who do, experiment and see what these cars can really do. Some people do and come out with great results though, such as Rado. Then again, you know expensive that is? I rather get a faster car stock and do a few mods here and there, plus itll get alot more respect than a tC.

You are doing good stuff with your car rhythm, I watch your topic all the time, but in todays world, right now, the tC is just your average platform, the new Civic.
wana race? i has deh crappiez 4 banger eva!

BTW im happy i got my 5spd crappy over an SI (closest comparison) because every one ive raced has been walked...and only on spray was i everbeaten... yes i has crappy platform mr. 2nuggets and happy meal..

do urself a favor... sell you crappy tc, buy an eg hatch, go to midnight auto or have my friends at yosolo racing hook you up with a propper 4 banger setup/tune...im sure you'll be happier then.
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Originally Posted by 10PieceNuggets
Our cars are crappy 4 bangers, no need to hype up a few races, or few boosted (nicely) tCs. Thats like finding a needle in a haystack. No one who wants a powerhouse car would even think of using a tC as their platform. Yet the people who do, experiment and see what these cars can really do. Some people do and come out with great results though, such as Rado. Then again, you know expensive that is? I rather get a faster car stock and do a few mods here and there, plus itll get alot more respect than a tC.

You are doing good stuff with your car rhythm, I watch your topic all the time, but in todays world, right now, the tC is just your average platform, the new Civic.
IMO the tc has a better platform than the civic with lower compression pistons from the factory it does a lot better when turboed.

seriously dude you=fail!
you know nothing, yet you make outrageous claims. do your research.... by the way... wanna race? i haz the #2 crappiest tc next to pete...

gtfo!
Old 03-21-2009 | 09:40 PM
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10piece is just ____ed his allowance money dont cover the mods he wants to do. so now he wishes mom and dad would have bought him a 30k car because its faster from the factory and does not need as many mods. so his parents are stuck with a car payment for30k and he is stuck with a " faster" car. in order to drive something with *****, you have to have them son.



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