lol dont say my bad, im not tripppin out. But yeah how do u like the tanabe concept g? is that all you have? it should sound pretty good with the stock header and midpipe.

 

Resonaters don't kill rasp. Cat's do. 2 cats placed to the back of your mid pipe would kill rasp. it took 2 cats a 30 inch resonater and a huge muffler to get the tC to it's stock sound. so if you kill one you need to add another.

and mengsta there is a huge difference between the touring medallion and the concept G

 

well i have the injen intake...im wanting to make it a little more loud but not raspy...and just a little more HP and i know its not a lot of a gain.

 

o yea the tanabe concept g...its a nice little axle back

 

Uhmm yes i know there is a difference, the medallion touring is a much bigger muffler since its OEM style. No1 ever said resonators kill rasp, resonators reduce rasp. Also he doesnt want a stock sounding Tc, so 2 cats and a 30 inch resonator would be stupid. And wouldnt throwing on more cats just be an unecessary reduction of power.

 

Exactly, whats the point of getting a header and getting rid of one cat if you are just going to have another one welded on? Trust me, just get the tanabe medallion touring if you have a header and it will sound good. That way you dont need to loose power by getting resonators and cats welded on to your midpipe.

 

thats exactly what i did,. though i think he said he already has the concept g./

 

Yea, but the concept G gets very raspy with a header, I am selling my evo2 and getting the tanabe mt.

 

I dont think cats take away too much power if any.... 2Hp?? thats not even enough to make a difference.. all they do anyways is clean up the poo your exhaust throws into the atmosphere..... just my 2 cents

 

so the concept g is not going to sound good with headers..

what if i just get an aftermarket s-pipe and mid pipe...would it sound good or not

 

Uhmmm texas you say cats take away 2hp? 2hp in wat part of the powerband? and even if you are right 2 hp is practically all the hp you will get by putting on an aftermarket exhaust. The concept g will sound good with a midpipe and s-pipe. Headers will put you in a totall different ball park with sound though. Go try youtube. This thread should be over. lol

 

lol this thread SHOULD be over. headers give rasp, cats and resonators will help. i just installed a precision muffler on my injen intake, mmw header/s-pipe, stock midpipe setup, and yeahhhhh i think i'm going to have to go weld on a bigger resonator. doesn't sound horrible, but i think it'll sound a lot better without the rasp.
edit: my precision muffler's piping is 2.5", so that might have a little to do with it.

 

but one more question... i have read somewhere that mmw has had some their s-pipes coming up shorter then the stock s-pipe

has anybody have any problems with this?

 

Cat's cause almost no power loss on N/A car's.

 

yea MMW has their own spipe to work with there header, their s pipe is shorter then OEM. And syldrin did you really have to quote me? lol when you say that, its just like saying exhaust causesalmost no power gain on N/A cars. removing cats contribute to that lil gain.

 

the reason it's shorter is to make room for the longer header. the header wraps around a lot longer than say, dc sports or alphaworks, which will work with stock s-pipe. the 4-2-1 design probably made the mmw a lot longer than other ones.

 

but are they able to reach the mid pipe???

 

yep. mine reach wit no problems.

 

Exhaust do cause almost no power gains. they're just for sound. it's still a stock car even if it has an exaust a header or an intake.

 

i guess u can call it stock, if your racing in a pro stock car race, but generally changing out those parts dont mean "stock" just becuz u get ____ty gains.