Scotty-tC

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this thread is awesome, shift more power to you bro. the haters will hate, dont let it stop you

Domo

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correction, hater not the plural form of haters because there is only one guy hating on Shift and that guy is lil wayne.

Scotty-tC

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thank you Domo

TCpete

when?

Domo

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yea pete...your a LIAR....giggles
^haha dont mind my dumb sarcasm...I need some sleep

Shift_N_Red

Ok, So here it is.. I talked to BC again today


"We don't actually have dyno graphs but we do have reliable figures from our tests to grind the cams."


So, that being said here is what Brian Told me over the phone.

The stage 2 {non-head build} cams will net a driver 15-18 WHP over stock {other modifications pending ofcourse}

The stage 2 {built head} cams will net slightly better.. 18-25whp over stock {but do require valves, springs, and retainers.}

Just for you Pete}

Stage 3 {Built head and higher compression} will net you anywhere from 25-30whp over stock.


**Note**

All of these except maybe the basic stage 2s {the ones I will be testing "Require" some level of tuning. ie FIC or EMS etc.


I am debating the cost of doing the Tune alone.. getting numbers .. posting numbers.. then doing the basic stage 2 cams re-tuning.. and posting said numbers.. it will cost me maybe 1k more to do that.. but it might be worth it just to have the info up on SL so that people know what they are looking at.. etc.


I'll take voices on the "Tune ----- Re-Tune debate"

bdis3

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Get tuning software where you can advance timing on it. FIC you can only retard timing, which you shouldnt be doing on an NA build.

weezyfbayba

i asked u on FB pete lol

TCpete

u did? im old i forget things lol

so yea im stock lmaooo


shift those are all great numbers but i just hate BC has never stepped up and got'en the numbers officially... if they did then im sure they would be selling those cams like hot cakes.. hell i have a stack right here ill drop if you results prove worthy... new wheels can wait lol

Shift_N_Red

I agree Pete... its kinda shade tree that BC never has come with a graph... but on the other hand they do trade on their name and I have yet to see anyone say they sucked.. :?


What do you think man... Do the tune and cams at once?? or do tune then cams and re-tune??

I am going to finish out my pulley set for this .. and I am just debating doing the cams and never knowing what REALLY is possible with boltons and a tune.. vs. not spending an extra G to find out..

anthoNy909

pretty good..shoot 4 200

RobRS2

lolz

edit: also, just as a general question to anyone who might know, what would be the average price for some one to do a P&P job for me and where would you go to get that done?

mileoutrage

O2 Motorworks/Designcraft tc has the BC Stage 3 NA race camshafts, stainless steel valves, valve springs, titanium retainers and mild port and polish, we should try and find out what these guys made on the dyno, they also had one-off O2 Motorworks race header and aem intake i think...

weezyfbayba

a p&p job?

rosedaleny806

port and polish?

Shift_N_Red

Yes sir.. that would be a PnP {port and polish} job.. the issue that you get into with that though it ... what kind of PnP do you get or your application.


Do you do a street port???

A race port??

or do you just go in and clean it up a bit...

And ofcourse each one carries its own price tag...


But you will find that places like Dezod -- Jotech-- etc offer built heads and the prices are normally between $1100 and $1500 depending on valve train used.


{above price range is based on PnP and build}


all in time.

chrischoi

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I was at the shop and was having my Viper replaced today... There goes my monies.
Took alot more in labor than I thought. But anyway... I made a promise with my girl I wouldn't be spending anymore on the car for a bit... another . If I do... I have to do it stealthily... I wanna see these cam numbers.

chrischoi

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But in reality... I think I can get about 3.7whp from this...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MUFFL...Q5fAccessories

Then another 10whp from this:

Shift_N_Red

Dude... it would be worth buying one of these.. just to dyno it for laughs... and ofcourse.. the exhaust BOV... cause.. you know....





Im bringing Rice back _________ _______


LOL


But seriously.. I would love to get numbers on that mess... just to have it posted for every new ricer we deal with.