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Old 08-12-2007, 03:13 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_shaft

http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/eb10330.htm
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Originally Posted by toyota_scion_tc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_shaft

http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/eb10330.htm
I found those 2 web sites, and I even posted the wiki one for u to read. I read them, unlike you. None of the them talk about problems by removing the balance shafts. They talk about the "secondary shock" that the balance shaft counter by creating pressure. It's even beneficial by removing them due to the less pressure on the bearings and other parts of the engine. LEARN TO READ THE INFO BEFORE POSTING. The second one you posted talks about the benefits of engine balancing and the tools that will help you. How do I know that? Because I had to read that one to have a list of engine balancing tools for my future shop. It only says that balance shafts aren't substitutes for engine balancing, as most people think.

Next time, READ
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Old 08-12-2007, 05:08 PM
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Balancing goes hand-in-hand with performance engine building. Balancing reduces internal loads and vibrations that stress metal and may eventually lead to component failure.

directly from one website.

Nevertheless, some owners modify their engines by removing the balance shafts, both to reclaim some of this power and to reduce complexity and potential areas of breakage for high performance and racing use, as it is commonly (but falsely) believed that the smoothness provided by the balance shafts can be attained after their removal by careful balancing of the reciprocating components of the engine.

and from the other
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by toyota_scion_tc
Balancing goes hand-in-hand with performance engine building. Balancing reduces internal loads and vibrations that stress metal and may eventually lead to component failure.

directly from one website.

Nevertheless, some owners modify their engines by removing the balance shafts, both to reclaim some of this power and to reduce complexity and potential areas of breakage for high performance and racing use, as it is commonly (but falsely) believed that the smoothness provided by the balance shafts can be attained after their removal by careful balancing of the reciprocating components of the engine.

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That quote is stating that no matter how well balanced your internals are that it won't be as comfortable as actually using a balancing shaft. It doesn't say that it will hurt engine reliability at all.
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Keeshwah
Originally Posted by toyota_scion_tc
Balancing goes hand-in-hand with performance engine building. Balancing reduces internal loads and vibrations that stress metal and may eventually lead to component failure.

directly from one website.

Nevertheless, some owners modify their engines by removing the balance shafts, both to reclaim some of this power and to reduce complexity and potential areas of breakage for high performance and racing use, as it is commonly (but falsely) believed that the smoothness provided by the balance shafts can be attained after their removal by careful balancing of the reciprocating components of the engine.

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That quote is stating that no matter how well balanced your internals are that it won't be as comfortable as actually using a balancing shaft. It doesn't say that it will hurt engine reliability at all.
x2 Come on man, u keep falling, give it up. When a problem arises for taking out the balancing shafts, then u can say "I told u so". But for now, give it up. I haven't seen yet, anywhere on the net, something bad about balancing shafts removal.
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:29 PM
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i personally wouldnt remove them myself, but thats also for ride quality-i have a 88 monte that shakes enough for me...

but then again, everyone was worried about the solid pulleys and vibrations--so its hard to tell
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:22 PM
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Removing the balance shafts will not hurt your engine and neither will pulleys. Too many know it all's around here.

DSM and Evo guys have been doing this for over ten years and some of their cars rev to 9,000 rpms. The MFG's added them for comfort and that is all.
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:23 PM
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dude i seriously wana do this to my motor lol... DIY is in order asap!!
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TCpete
dude i seriously wana do this to my motor lol... DIY is in order asap!!
Yes, please...
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Old 08-16-2007, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tcengel
Originally Posted by TCpete
dude i seriously wana do this to my motor lol... DIY is in order asap!!
Yes, please...
yes...
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Old 08-16-2007, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by InfideL
Originally Posted by tcengel
Originally Posted by TCpete
dude i seriously wana do this to my motor lol... DIY is in order asap!!
Yes, please...
yes...
x4
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:01 AM
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Any updates on this?
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by soros151
nice... and it's not 30hp, its actually from 166 to 172. Thats 6whp more. NICE!
thats what i thought

i was like
where hte hell are people getting 30 hp
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Originally Posted by aen
Originally Posted by soros151
nice... and it's not 30hp, its actually from 166 to 172. Thats 6whp more. NICE!
thats what i thought

i was like
where hte hell are people getting 30 hp
ME TOO!
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Old 09-03-2007, 10:43 AM
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ok not that update i was looking forward to...
but still a nice bump!
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Old 09-03-2007, 10:53 AM
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sorry, didn't realize the threads not all that new. haha

thooo i would like to know how to do this.
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