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Old 11-21-2005, 12:04 AM
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You might not want to go any further because the oil clearances are so tight in The new engines that it will heat the oil up to much causing a lot more friction on your main bearings. maybe causing them to spin off track and you will have a different wear pattern causing a real bad ride and bad engine. Good luck with engine life too. Rev limiter is set there for a reason. I wouldnt reccomend it. Would like to see a dyno run tho
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Old 10-18-2006, 01:33 AM
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Bump for people who havnt seen this.
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:22 AM
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i heard revving it this high can shorten the ring life of our cars.. is this true??
Absolutely. The guy is flirting with engine death.

removing the limitor is absolutely worthless and if you [b]need[b] to do it, you wouldn't be using some cheap piggy-back computer.

You won't gain in the 1/4, you won't gain in autox, you won't even gain on the street.


All you're doing is putting more stress on a high compression engine thats known for breaking ringlands.
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:27 AM
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^^ i second that. Its not worth the extra 4 mph for each gear.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mattvs
i heard revving it this high can shorten the ring life of our cars.. is this true??
Absolutely. The guy is flirting with engine death.

removing the limitor is absolutely worthless and if you [b]need[b] to do it, you wouldn't be using some cheap piggy-back computer.

You won't gain in the 1/4, you won't gain in autox, you won't even gain on the street.


All you're doing is putting more stress on a high compression engine thats known for breaking ringlands.
Stop trying to scare people and let them try new things. 6800 rpm's is nothing and this engine is not exactly high compression. Why would Toyota set the limiter at 6200 rpm if it was on the edge of destruction? 600 rpms is nothing and I'm pretty sure the engine will be perfectly fine for a long time to come. I personally would have set it at 7,000 rpms.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:43 PM
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There are plenty of turbo folks revving to 6800-7000rpm ranges. Their engines are running strong.
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this unfortunately only has proof-of-concept value; there's no reward for revving so high other than possibly killing your engine. There's no power worth getting up there...
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Originally Posted by paul34
this unfortunately only has proof-of-concept value; there's no reward for revving so high other than possibly killing your engine. There's no power worth getting up there...
With Full intake exhaust header and S-pipe 2.5" back, I make peak power very close to redline. In my case, this would make a very nice gain and would definately help 1/4 mile times. With the stock set-up, it would not make any difference.
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Im going to laugh when someone blows their motor. Just because you dont see immediate damage does not mean that you are not killing your motor. If you want high rev get an RX8. By the time you spend all of the necessary money to get the motor to tolerate 7k you will have spend the $ you could have just got the RX8 for.
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Im going to laugh when someone blows their motor. Just because you dont see immediate damage does not mean that you are not killing your motor. If you want high rev get an RX8. By the time you spend all of the necessary money to get the motor to tolerate 7k you will have spend the $ you could have just got the RX8 for.
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Originally Posted by jakedudeta
Im going to laugh when someone blows their motor. Just because you dont see immediate damage does not mean that you are not killing your motor. If you want high rev get an RX8. By the time you spend all of the necessary money to get the motor to tolerate 7k you will have spend the $ you could have just got the RX8 for.
Why would the motor blow?
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instead of using the emanage to raise the rev limit and speed imobilizer.. why dont you ppl use it for whats it for and thats to correct the A/F ratios on our cars so we dont run as rich as was set by our standard ECU.

revving higher on a torque and HP curve that reaches peak at 5700-5900 rpms is pointless. your not making power or tq so infact revving that high you would actually loose in a race because your not producing anything what so ever.

unless your going to also replace the valvetrain to something stronger, when you drop a valve or something breaks because you wana be a honda and rev to 8k + dont cry because you have to replace the head or block. if you going to flirt with disaster atleast protect yourself from danger by upgrading the valves, valve springs, retainers.

also our stock head doesnt benefit from the over rev because youve maxed out the air input and output. try doing a p&p and valve job to increase air flow. then maybe you will see gains past 6k.
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Originally Posted by TCpete
instead of using the emanage to raise the rev limit and speed imobilizer.. why dont you ppl use it for whats it for and thats to correct the A/F ratios on our cars so we dont run as rich as was set by our standard ECU.

revving higher on a torque and HP curve that reaches peak at 5700-5900 rpms is pointless. your not making power or tq so infact revving that high you would actually loose in a race because your not producing anything what so ever.

unless your going to also replace the valvetrain to something stronger, when you drop a valve or something breaks because you wana be a honda and rev to 8k + dont cry because you have to replace the head or block. if you going to flirt with disaster atleast protect yourself from danger by upgrading the valves, valve springs, retainers.

also our stock head doesnt benefit from the over rev because youve maxed out the air input and output. try doing a p&p and valve job to increase air flow. then maybe you will see gains past 6k.
Nobody discussed 8,000 rpms did they? We are discussing 7,000 rpms top in which case you do not need to upgrade anything except your engines ability to breath. Please discuss the topic at hand.
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Someone needs to put their car on a dyno with the raised rev limiter and see what it looks like.
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Old 10-18-2006, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DouBLeJ16
Someone needs to put their car on a dyno with the raised rev limiter and see what it looks like.
like turbocustomz perhaps...
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tcengel
Originally Posted by TCpete
instead of using the emanage to raise the rev limit and speed imobilizer.. why dont you ppl use it for whats it for and thats to correct the A/F ratios on our cars so we dont run as rich as was set by our standard ECU.

revving higher on a torque and HP curve that reaches peak at 5700-5900 rpms is pointless. your not making power or tq so infact revving that high you would actually loose in a race because your not producing anything what so ever.

unless your going to also replace the valvetrain to something stronger, when you drop a valve or something breaks because you wana be a honda and rev to 8k + dont cry because you have to replace the head or block. if you going to flirt with disaster atleast protect yourself from danger by upgrading the valves, valve springs, retainers.

also our stock head doesnt benefit from the over rev because youve maxed out the air input and output. try doing a p&p and valve job to increase air flow. then maybe you will see gains past 6k.
Nobody discussed 8,000 rpms did they? We are discussing 7,000 rpms top in which case you do not need to upgrade anything except your engines ability to breath. Please discuss the topic at hand.
doesnt matter 7k - 8k you are still way over the desired engineers rev limit for the mtor..

if your not making hp or tq after 6k why would it matter revving to 6800 or 7k (since you want to be ****) ....HELLO? theres no point at all? why waste time in an rpm range thats not helping you get ahead with major upgrades and work on the stock head or atleast FI? its pointless!! and also potentially harmfull
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:36 PM
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ok...ppl, tihnk about what your typing, and what has already been written


we know this has no benefit on a stock enginge(i mean bone stock!!!)

add a full intake and exhaust, you push your powerband over....that opens your air in and out, quite possibly allowing much more power in those power bands....so on a mildly modified engine, going to 65-6600

i've seen my engine go past the rev limiter.....thanks to centrifigual(spelling?!?!) force, only to a little above the line....not much, but a little

this is very, very nice for superchargers..... if your running 12 psi at 6100RPM, you might be able to get to 13 higher up.....and since the s/c graph goes all the way to redline for hp and tq, this is a nice addition to *view* the power beyond this point


phew/end rant

good job, but be careful...., we're all venturing into unknown territory here
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Here's an example of a full exhaust TC dyno. I fail to see why a few hundred more RPMs would not be a good thing.... It's not only the power where you shift, but the power you fall into when you hit the next gear.


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