scion tc vs. mazdaspeed3
#1
scion tc vs. mazdaspeed3
Wow, didn't know those mazda's were so damn fast. I knew they were turbo but If I get the basic greddy, turbonetics, or dezod s1 kit will I be able to beat a lightly modded mazdaspeed3? Right now I have I/H/E/P setup and just got my ___ kicked by a mazda. little disappointed
Although my friend has a mustang shelby gt350 and I can keep up with it because he has so much weight. system, dynamat, 20in rims, etc.
Thinkin about going turbo but not sure what kit yet.
Although my friend has a mustang shelby gt350 and I can keep up with it because he has so much weight. system, dynamat, 20in rims, etc.
Thinkin about going turbo but not sure what kit yet.
#4
man i know how u feel! all i had was i/h/e and i went up against one and i didnt know! i thought it was a regular mazda 3, i had no idea they made a special one called mazdaspeed.. i was extremely confused afterwards as to what had happened
#5
hahaha. ya. he goes to my school and I told him i'd race him after I got mine turbo'd so I have to make sure i can beat him. Trying to see what kit to go with. Turbonetics, TT, Greddy, or Dezod.
#6
You're 17.
Wait. Enjoy your car for what it is. Get into college, get a degree, make lots of money...
Then buy an STi.
People who throw turbo kits onto their cars have a LOT more money and resources than a typical 17 year old. I'm sorry, but chances are, you're just not in the position to do all these things with your vehicle.
Don't worry, your time will come
Wait. Enjoy your car for what it is. Get into college, get a degree, make lots of money...
Then buy an STi.
People who throw turbo kits onto their cars have a LOT more money and resources than a typical 17 year old. I'm sorry, but chances are, you're just not in the position to do all these things with your vehicle.
Don't worry, your time will come
#7
hahaha, yea thats true. Just got accepted into Auburn, Alabama, waiting to hear from UCF, UF, and NYU. hopefully if all goes well i'll buy the new GTR!! lol
its just the fact that all my friends have nice ___ cars like shelby gt, evo x, and they're 16! spoiled as hell. and they talk down about my tc so want to show them wats up. a dezod s1 or TT kit should do it =) Just want to have a fun ride but not drive like an idiot. My friend over the summer this year was driving his brand new lexus is250 going about a 100 and lost control n crashed n lost his life and almost took my other best friend's life in the passenger seat. (RIP) so i try not to drive dumb but we all know as scion drivers there are times when a civic si, mazda3 or whatever pulls up next to you or speeds by you we have to show them whats up. so I'm just saving up selling my dirtbike and what not to get a turbo kit that is reliable and something that'll give me enough hp to win some races. =D
its just the fact that all my friends have nice ___ cars like shelby gt, evo x, and they're 16! spoiled as hell. and they talk down about my tc so want to show them wats up. a dezod s1 or TT kit should do it =) Just want to have a fun ride but not drive like an idiot. My friend over the summer this year was driving his brand new lexus is250 going about a 100 and lost control n crashed n lost his life and almost took my other best friend's life in the passenger seat. (RIP) so i try not to drive dumb but we all know as scion drivers there are times when a civic si, mazda3 or whatever pulls up next to you or speeds by you we have to show them whats up. so I'm just saving up selling my dirtbike and what not to get a turbo kit that is reliable and something that'll give me enough hp to win some races. =D
#8
You've got to recenter on what's important... getting a turbo kit so you can street race, and potentially end up like your Lexus friend is NOT important. Even with a turbo kit, you still drive a tc, and they still drive a car MUCH nicer than yours.
Your friends are lucky, sure. But the things is, there is NOTHING like EARNING your car.
BE PATIENT. Good things will come, and you'll appreciate the fact you didn't have the badass car right out. You've already got a fun ride (plenty of 17 year olds with 8 year old corollas)... but keep things in perspective. I drove a hand-me-down toyota avalon when I was 17, and I felt lucky to have that granny car.
In fact, if you start autocrossing, you'll find it's easier to push the tC to it's limit... than it is to successfully reach the limits of an Evo, etc.... and be able to recover and push forward. With a shelby, once that back end gets out of your control, it's totally game over.
You'll grow out of street racing, just don't kill yourself first
Your friends are lucky, sure. But the things is, there is NOTHING like EARNING your car.
BE PATIENT. Good things will come, and you'll appreciate the fact you didn't have the badass car right out. You've already got a fun ride (plenty of 17 year olds with 8 year old corollas)... but keep things in perspective. I drove a hand-me-down toyota avalon when I was 17, and I felt lucky to have that granny car.
In fact, if you start autocrossing, you'll find it's easier to push the tC to it's limit... than it is to successfully reach the limits of an Evo, etc.... and be able to recover and push forward. With a shelby, once that back end gets out of your control, it's totally game over.
You'll grow out of street racing, just don't kill yourself first
#9
Originally Posted by arhim22
its just the fact that all my friends have nice butt cars like shelby gt, evo x, and they're 16! spoiled as hell. and they talk down about my tc so want to show them wats up. a dezod s1 or TT kit should do it =) Just want to have a fun ride but not drive like an idiot. My friend over the summer this year was driving his brand new lexus is250 going about a 100 and lost control n crashed n lost his life and almost took my other best friend's life in the passenger seat. (RIP) so i try not to drive dumb but we all know as scion drivers there are times when a civic si, mazda3 or whatever pulls up next to you or speeds by you we have to show them whats up. so I'm just saving up selling my dirtbike and what not to get a turbo kit that is reliable and something that'll give me enough hp to win some races. =D
Of course everyone likes to show off, but it's only acceptable to a certain extent. Driving 100 and losing control is an example of that combined with stupidity. If you want to drive fast, do it on a track and with no one else in the car. Dont race on the roads. it is plain stupid. I've been challenged to race by my friends, but I dont race. I know they have a faster car (most of them, at least) and there's no point to it. I don't want to risk losing control, and possibly hurting myself or others. Not to mention a hefty ticket for the consequences.
So be the better man. You dont need "to show up" anyone. Whatever your choice, just be smart about it.
#12
Originally Posted by datdude1119
man i know how u feel! all i had was i/h/e and i went up against one and i didnt know! i thought it was a regular mazda 3, i had no idea they made a special one called mazdaspeed.. i was extremely confused afterwards as to what had happened
Yes the Speed 3 is an impressive car.My friend jsut did a baseline dyno and it was 243hp if I remember at the wheels.Once a speed 3 gets a proper exhaust,intake,and the usual bolt on's and a minor tune it is very productive.
Speed 3 is very well balanced onthe road and geared very well.and can easily get in the 400hp range with minor work.
I watched my friend pull up on another one of our friends at 70....the lead car was a slightly tuned WRX....when the WRX pulled away the speed 3 was right on his butt and had to let off and drop back or drive over it.....they are nice cars.....and yes they were on a track.
#13
yeah, I went on a ride in a white MS3 that one of my co-workers just got (since his xA was totalled - other party's fault) and all I could say was "Holy Shyt!!!"
Jealousy reared it's ugly head...
I'm thinkin' turbo is in the cards soon...
Jealousy reared it's ugly head...
I'm thinkin' turbo is in the cards soon...
#14
Originally Posted by firesquare
im more worried about the mustang on 20's what year is it and why 20's?
this doesn't make sense to me (muscle car guy here)
this doesn't make sense to me (muscle car guy here)
a pic of this "ride" would help too
#15
lol ya thanks guys. all good advices.
and for the shelby gt. he's got 20in rims lol. and a full system with dynamat and everything to weigh it down even more. hahaha. just likes to show off his car with sound and not what the car was made for. I always tell him how stupid he is for doing it but its his car and he can do whatever he wants. I'll try to get some pics.
Whats a good upgrade to put on thats cheap for handling. rear sway? I have a front strut bar already.
and for the shelby gt. he's got 20in rims lol. and a full system with dynamat and everything to weigh it down even more. hahaha. just likes to show off his car with sound and not what the car was made for. I always tell him how stupid he is for doing it but its his car and he can do whatever he wants. I'll try to get some pics.
Whats a good upgrade to put on thats cheap for handling. rear sway? I have a front strut bar already.
#17
Originally Posted by arhim22
lol ya thanks guys. all good advices.
and for the shelby gt. he's got 20in rims lol. and a full system with dynamat and everything to weigh it down even more. hahaha. just likes to show off his car with sound and not what the car was made for. I always tell him how stupid he is for doing it but its his car and he can do whatever he wants. I'll try to get some pics.
Whats a good upgrade to put on thats cheap for handling. rear sway? I have a front strut bar already.
and for the shelby gt. he's got 20in rims lol. and a full system with dynamat and everything to weigh it down even more. hahaha. just likes to show off his car with sound and not what the car was made for. I always tell him how stupid he is for doing it but its his car and he can do whatever he wants. I'll try to get some pics.
Whats a good upgrade to put on thats cheap for handling. rear sway? I have a front strut bar already.
trd sway=good difference
progress=even less body roll
hotchkis f/r sway= even less body roll, mostly for track but is streetable
i have the trd sway now im ready for endlinks then coilovers.
#18
Originally Posted by firesquare
Originally Posted by firesquare
im more worried about the mustang on 20's what year is it and why 20's?
this doesn't make sense to me (muscle car guy here)
this doesn't make sense to me (muscle car guy here)
a pic of this "ride" would help too
lol what do you mean? my friend has a 06 mustang gt on 20's and it looks nice, it fits the car.. let me find a picture and thread jack for a second..
#20
Originally Posted by arhim22
lol ya thanks guys. all good advices.
and for the shelby gt. he's got 20in rims lol. and a full system with dynamat and everything to weigh it down even more. hahaha. just likes to show off his car with sound and not what the car was made for. I always tell him how stupid he is for doing it but its his car and he can do whatever he wants. I'll try to get some pics.
Whats a good upgrade to put on thats cheap for handling. rear sway? I have a front strut bar already.
and for the shelby gt. he's got 20in rims lol. and a full system with dynamat and everything to weigh it down even more. hahaha. just likes to show off his car with sound and not what the car was made for. I always tell him how stupid he is for doing it but its his car and he can do whatever he wants. I'll try to get some pics.
Whats a good upgrade to put on thats cheap for handling. rear sway? I have a front strut bar already.