tC Dual Exhaust!!
01-03-2005, 12:38 AM
#81
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well forget having two separate mufflers....isn't anyone thinking of having dual tip outlets like in the first picture, just using one exhaust/ muffler? i've been thinking about doing that from the first minute of getting the car, all's needed is a dual outlet muffler, then just cut the left side of the body to fit the new tip...
then you don't have to worry about the dual exhaust on a 4 banger issue...
anyone wanna try this and post some pics?
then you don't have to worry about the dual exhaust on a 4 banger issue...
anyone wanna try this and post some pics?
01-03-2005, 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JMS001
Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by JMS001
All three of these races were done with the stock tC exhaust system and at 7-8psi of boost pressure, all these cars run around 12-15 psi of boost stock to give you an idea. Now that i have the 3" exhaust system, it is much faster. This Turbo system will be offered at 10psi of boost, so those super compacts will have real problems with any tC running this turbo system. NOT to mention the price of a new tC, the 3" exhaust system, and the turbo system will still cost less than an EVO, and look better doing it.
You pointed out a very good topic. No I have not removed the speed cut. These races were all on the highway, but they were basically from approx. 40mph to 130mph drag races. Basically if I let you go first @ 40mph and I'm a couple cars ahead of you when I hit 130mph you pretty much lose. Or if i let you go @ 40 mph and you can't get in front of me by the time I hit 130 then thats pretty close. Yeah definately would lose in a top speed match against these cars.
I am working on this problem diligently, i should have a solution in about a week if all goes as planned. But even if you remove the speed cut, you will still have the problem of the rev limiter. At 130mph the RPM is about at 6000rpm, so theres not much more to go before the rpm cutoff. I am also trying to remedy this by maybe changing the gear ratios on the transmission.
First you are racing SRT4 than it turns out that you had to strike a deal with each one of them them to end the race at 130.... Did the all agree?
And now you promise to make TC faster than EVO...
Seriously now, how many of these kids are you planning to take for few grands?
Next time read don't skim, so you get your facts straight.
Just admit it. You did not race any of the cars you mentioned in your post.
I am going to put your story next to the now famous "muffler turbine", for the same exact reason: no verifiable dyno results....
I understand you have your fart cans to push but for Christ's sake keep it realistic, OK?
01-03-2005, 06:02 AM
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My Evo was extremely fast, and at the videos of the turbo tC, I can see the Evo would easily win if the roll starts below 80. The lack of traction just seems to be a huge issue right now. I think your next mod should be super sticky tires that get that power to the ground. That's the best investment you can make, and will help a lot more than you think.
Speedlimiter cut will get you an extra 5-10mph, seeing how you're near redline at 130 anyway.
Nice turbo kit though. I'll consider it along with the TRD blower, or a possible custom setup. Either way, I don't see a good driver in an Evo losing to that at lower starting speeds.
Speedlimiter cut will get you an extra 5-10mph, seeing how you're near redline at 130 anyway.
Nice turbo kit though. I'll consider it along with the TRD blower, or a possible custom setup. Either way, I don't see a good driver in an Evo losing to that at lower starting speeds.
01-06-2005, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by JMS001
Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by JMS001
All three of these races were done with the stock tC exhaust system and at 7-8psi of boost pressure, all these cars run around 12-15 psi of boost stock to give you an idea. Now that i have the 3" exhaust system, it is much faster. This Turbo system will be offered at 10psi of boost, so those super compacts will have real problems with any tC running this turbo system. NOT to mention the price of a new tC, the 3" exhaust system, and the turbo system will still cost less than an EVO, and look better doing it.
You pointed out a very good topic. No I have not removed the speed cut. These races were all on the highway, but they were basically from approx. 40mph to 130mph drag races. Basically if I let you go first @ 40mph and I'm a couple cars ahead of you when I hit 130mph you pretty much lose. Or if i let you go @ 40 mph and you can't get in front of me by the time I hit 130 then thats pretty close. Yeah definately would lose in a top speed match against these cars.
I am working on this problem diligently, i should have a solution in about a week if all goes as planned. But even if you remove the speed cut, you will still have the problem of the rev limiter. At 130mph the RPM is about at 6000rpm, so theres not much more to go before the rpm cutoff. I am also trying to remedy this by maybe changing the gear ratios on the transmission.
First you are racing SRT4 than it turns out that you had to strike a deal with each one of them them to end the race at 130.... Did the all agree?
And now you promise to make TC faster than EVO...
Seriously now, how many of these kids are you planning to take for few grands?
Next time read don't skim, so you get your facts straight.
Just admit it. You did not race any of the cars you mentioned in your post.
I am going to put your story next to the now famous "muffler turbine", for the same exact reason: no verifiable dyno results....
I understand you have your fart cans to push but for Christ's sake keep it realistic, OK?
And if you're saying that it's not possible to race an Evo or STI because the speed cut is at 127mph then you my freind are a fool... and remember reading is fundamental.
01-06-2005, 06:27 PM
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stop the BS
Originally Posted by bigjuice
Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by JMS001
Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by JMS001
All three of these races were done with the stock tC exhaust system and at 7-8psi of boost pressure, all these cars run around 12-15 psi of boost stock to give you an idea. Now that i have the 3" exhaust system, it is much faster. This Turbo system will be offered at 10psi of boost, so those super compacts will have real problems with any tC running this turbo system. NOT to mention the price of a new tC, the 3" exhaust system, and the turbo system will still cost less than an EVO, and look better doing it.
You pointed out a very good topic. No I have not removed the speed cut. These races were all on the highway, but they were basically from approx. 40mph to 130mph drag races. Basically if I let you go first @ 40mph and I'm a couple cars ahead of you when I hit 130mph you pretty much lose. Or if i let you go @ 40 mph and you can't get in front of me by the time I hit 130 then thats pretty close. Yeah definately would lose in a top speed match against these cars.
I am working on this problem diligently, i should have a solution in about a week if all goes as planned. But even if you remove the speed cut, you will still have the problem of the rev limiter. At 130mph the RPM is about at 6000rpm, so theres not much more to go before the rpm cutoff. I am also trying to remedy this by maybe changing the gear ratios on the transmission.
First you are racing SRT4 than it turns out that you had to strike a deal with each one of them them to end the race at 130.... Did the all agree?
And now you promise to make TC faster than EVO...
Seriously now, how many of these kids are you planning to take for few grands?
Next time read don't skim, so you get your facts straight.
Just admit it. You did not race any of the cars you mentioned in your post.
I am going to put your story next to the now famous "muffler turbine", for the same exact reason: no verifiable dyno results....
I understand you have your fart cans to push but for Christ's sake keep it realistic, OK?
And if you're saying that it's not possible to race an Evo or STI because the speed cut is at 127mph then you my freind are a fool... and remember reading is fundamental.
PS. And my friend, in Brooklyn we do not call poeple names like "fool" etc just because it is very unhealthy...
01-06-2005, 07:52 PM
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Re: stop the BS
Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by bigjuice
Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by JMS001
Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by JMS001
All three of these races were done with the stock tC exhaust system and at 7-8psi of boost pressure, all these cars run around 12-15 psi of boost stock to give you an idea. Now that i have the 3" exhaust system, it is much faster. This Turbo system will be offered at 10psi of boost, so those super compacts will have real problems with any tC running this turbo system. NOT to mention the price of a new tC, the 3" exhaust system, and the turbo system will still cost less than an EVO, and look better doing it.
You pointed out a very good topic. No I have not removed the speed cut. These races were all on the highway, but they were basically from approx. 40mph to 130mph drag races. Basically if I let you go first @ 40mph and I'm a couple cars ahead of you when I hit 130mph you pretty much lose. Or if i let you go @ 40 mph and you can't get in front of me by the time I hit 130 then thats pretty close. Yeah definately would lose in a top speed match against these cars.
I am working on this problem diligently, i should have a solution in about a week if all goes as planned. But even if you remove the speed cut, you will still have the problem of the rev limiter. At 130mph the RPM is about at 6000rpm, so theres not much more to go before the rpm cutoff. I am also trying to remedy this by maybe changing the gear ratios on the transmission.
First you are racing SRT4 than it turns out that you had to strike a deal with each one of them them to end the race at 130.... Did the all agree?
And now you promise to make TC faster than EVO...
Seriously now, how many of these kids are you planning to take for few grands?
Next time read don't skim, so you get your facts straight.
Just admit it. You did not race any of the cars you mentioned in your post.
I am going to put your story next to the now famous "muffler turbine", for the same exact reason: no verifiable dyno results....
I understand you have your fart cans to push but for Christ's sake keep it realistic, OK?
And if you're saying that it's not possible to race an Evo or STI because the speed cut is at 127mph then you my freind are a fool... and remember reading is fundamental.
PS. And my friend, in Brooklyn we do not call poeple names like "fool" etc just because it is very unhealthy...
If this is your logic also then you too "My Friend", are a fool.
Also I'm not defending anybody, I am not a part of Jamasco or Scion Speed or any other company for that matter, it just so happened that I was in the car at the time of the races and I'm calling it as I saw it.
01-07-2005, 12:43 AM
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Re: stop the BS
Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by bigjuice
Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by JMS001
Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by JMS001
All three of these races were done with the stock tC exhaust system and at 7-8psi of boost pressure, all these cars run around 12-15 psi of boost stock to give you an idea. Now that i have the 3" exhaust system, it is much faster. This Turbo system will be offered at 10psi of boost, so those super compacts will have real problems with any tC running this turbo system. NOT to mention the price of a new tC, the 3" exhaust system, and the turbo system will still cost less than an EVO, and look better doing it.
You pointed out a very good topic. No I have not removed the speed cut. These races were all on the highway, but they were basically from approx. 40mph to 130mph drag races. Basically if I let you go first @ 40mph and I'm a couple cars ahead of you when I hit 130mph you pretty much lose. Or if i let you go @ 40 mph and you can't get in front of me by the time I hit 130 then thats pretty close. Yeah definately would lose in a top speed match against these cars.
I am working on this problem diligently, i should have a solution in about a week if all goes as planned. But even if you remove the speed cut, you will still have the problem of the rev limiter. At 130mph the RPM is about at 6000rpm, so theres not much more to go before the rpm cutoff. I am also trying to remedy this by maybe changing the gear ratios on the transmission.
First you are racing SRT4 than it turns out that you had to strike a deal with each one of them them to end the race at 130.... Did the all agree?
And now you promise to make TC faster than EVO...
Seriously now, how many of these kids are you planning to take for few grands?
Next time read don't skim, so you get your facts straight.
Just admit it. You did not race any of the cars you mentioned in your post.
I am going to put your story next to the now famous "muffler turbine", for the same exact reason: no verifiable dyno results....
I understand you have your fart cans to push but for Christ's sake keep it realistic, OK?
And if you're saying that it's not possible to race an Evo or STI because the speed cut is at 127mph then you my freind are a fool... and remember reading is fundamental.
PS. And my friend, in Brooklyn we do not call poeple names like "fool" etc just because it is very unhealthy...
My opinions are my own, you don't have to agree with them and please don't reply.. cuz I won't. Someone lock this thread.
02-19-2005, 09:13 AM
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JMS001, i like your car. i can't wait to see what you'll come out w/ next . it looks good and is fast. usually it's one way or the other. keep up the good work!
btw just ignore stefan. he's just rehashing another thread: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...619&highlight=
btw just ignore stefan. he's just rehashing another thread: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...619&highlight=
02-19-2005, 08:06 PM
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Re: stop the BS
Originally Posted by apexjr
Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by bigjuice
Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by JMS001
Originally Posted by Stefan TC
Originally Posted by JMS001
All three of these races were done with the stock tC exhaust system and at 7-8psi of boost pressure, all these cars run around 12-15 psi of boost stock to give you an idea. Now that i have the 3" exhaust system, it is much faster. This Turbo system will be offered at 10psi of boost, so those super compacts will have real problems with any tC running this turbo system. NOT to mention the price of a new tC, the 3" exhaust system, and the turbo system will still cost less than an EVO, and look better doing it.
You pointed out a very good topic. No I have not removed the speed cut. These races were all on the highway, but they were basically from approx. 40mph to 130mph drag races. Basically if I let you go first @ 40mph and I'm a couple cars ahead of you when I hit 130mph you pretty much lose. Or if i let you go @ 40 mph and you can't get in front of me by the time I hit 130 then thats pretty close. Yeah definately would lose in a top speed match against these cars.
I am working on this problem diligently, i should have a solution in about a week if all goes as planned. But even if you remove the speed cut, you will still have the problem of the rev limiter. At 130mph the RPM is about at 6000rpm, so theres not much more to go before the rpm cutoff. I am also trying to remedy this by maybe changing the gear ratios on the transmission.
First you are racing SRT4 than it turns out that you had to strike a deal with each one of them them to end the race at 130.... Did the all agree?
And now you promise to make TC faster than EVO...
Seriously now, how many of these kids are you planning to take for few grands?
Next time read don't skim, so you get your facts straight.
Just admit it. You did not race any of the cars you mentioned in your post.
I am going to put your story next to the now famous "muffler turbine", for the same exact reason: no verifiable dyno results....
I understand you have your fart cans to push but for Christ's sake keep it realistic, OK?
And if you're saying that it's not possible to race an Evo or STI because the speed cut is at 127mph then you my freind are a fool... and remember reading is fundamental.
PS. And my friend, in Brooklyn we do not call poeple names like "fool" etc just because it is very unhealthy...
My opinions are my own, you don't have to agree with them and please don't reply.. cuz I won't. Someone lock this thread.
chris
02-19-2005, 08:38 PM
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This mod reminds me of the continuous argue on HID KITs, lol same things come into play, functional(brighter), ilegal(duh), rice(copying bmw, mercedes, lexus, etc.). lol Funny stuff, keep posting.
p.s parenthetical items are for the hid portion
p.s parenthetical items are for the hid portion
02-20-2005, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboMe
looks nice but not necessary. You probably can get the same gain on a aftermarket single exhaust if not more w/ the single.
Originally Posted by wrx_brad
I won't believe that this exhaust produces any power gains until I see a dyno sheet.
Wasted words in my opinion. What happened to performance? The very idea that is so lacking in the so-called "import scene."
Form follows function.
Form follows function.
Form follows function.
