tC Dual Exhaust!!
05-12-2005, 01:27 AM
#121
Originally Posted by RacerZack
Originally Posted by TJCCARDCO
He can be original all he wants, but its wasted motion, splitting the air up. It just needs to go through one pipe and out the back, bigger piping not a split. Thats quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read on here, that we should let him be who he is...stop whining, we are just saying its not useful...and its ugly as hell too...period.
credit should be given to anyone who dares to try something new. yah, maybe it doesn't work or maybe it isn't your taste. who the hell are YOU to decide what is and is not the "best" exhaust design? if you're so damn smart, then go work for toyota or magnaflow and design the best exhaust for all of us. prove it with a dyno and THEN you can have a holier-than-thou attitude.
you like a single tip exhaust, and on the tC that is possibly the optimal design. but maybe this dual exhaust is the basis for a radical engine mod. you don't know what other stuff is in the works for this car. so you really don't have any business posting such a nasty opinion. you don't like it, fine. if you don't think the split design is good (and in that we DO agree), then you can say so without being a jerk.
thank you! hahaha, i think the dual exhaust is sweet! i would get it, also for you people that think that its rice, dont forget he did this car for a show car. not to be the fastest car in the world. anyways, when is this exhaust coming out and how much is it going to be. i would definately be willing to put this on my tC, functional or not.
oh and yes im aware that this thread was made a few months ago. i dont care
b**** all you want.
05-12-2005, 04:30 AM
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dual exahaust, not rice, this one is functional, more hp, tone like a g35, lighter than stock. but ya gotta be into dual tips. i like the single, but the dual draws alot of looks
05-12-2005, 08:53 PM
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A dual exhuast on a NA car is amusing.
It' works for show but not for go.
If this were a turbo'd tC, Might be... didn't bother to read all 5 pages here, then it would be even worse.
If the car is Superchaged, then it can be effective, sort of.. But I would not run 2 mufflers.
Ever see a M3 Dinan Exhaust? It's dual... but one is blocked. Wonder why eh?
If the headers plit from 4-2 and there were 2 straight pipes 2 cats then 2 mufflers...
It' works for show but not for go.
If this were a turbo'd tC, Might be... didn't bother to read all 5 pages here, then it would be even worse.
If the car is Superchaged, then it can be effective, sort of.. But I would not run 2 mufflers.
Ever see a M3 Dinan Exhaust? It's dual... but one is blocked. Wonder why eh?
If the headers plit from 4-2 and there were 2 straight pipes 2 cats then 2 mufflers...
05-25-2005, 10:48 PM
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This is funny. I have not been on here for a while.
You guys can hate it or you guys can love it. The bottom line is that this exhaust system is lighter than stock, It puts out more HP than ANY exhaust system on the market today, and personally i think it looks the best doing it. This exhaust will be available, in full stainless steel, and will come out later in titanium. It will also be available in a single for you dual haters.
oh yeah and the car that is pictured, does 12.0 sec to the quarter, and is at the present time the QUICKEST tC in the WORLD!
-Jayson
You guys can hate it or you guys can love it. The bottom line is that this exhaust system is lighter than stock, It puts out more HP than ANY exhaust system on the market today, and personally i think it looks the best doing it. This exhaust will be available, in full stainless steel, and will come out later in titanium. It will also be available in a single for you dual haters.
oh yeah and the car that is pictured, does 12.0 sec to the quarter, and is at the present time the QUICKEST tC in the WORLD!
-Jayson
05-25-2005, 11:01 PM
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But then again, that's with a stage 3 turbo.
Most people are talking about how an NA car would not benefit from dual exhaust... that would, true enough, have the most gain, but the gain will be had so far into the power band that's it's not worth having.
Most people are talking about how an NA car would not benefit from dual exhaust... that would, true enough, have the most gain, but the gain will be had so far into the power band that's it's not worth having.
05-26-2005, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kungpaosamuraiii
But then again, that's with a stage 3 turbo.
Most people are talking about how an NA car would not benefit from dual exhaust... that would, true enough, have the most gain, but the gain will be had so far into the power band that's it's not worth having.
Most people are talking about how an NA car would not benefit from dual exhaust... that would, true enough, have the most gain, but the gain will be had so far into the power band that's it's not worth having.
In all we have two turbocharged testers and two NA testers. All of which are driven on a daily basis.
We will show all our dyno figures and test results after we have completed our first production run. We do not want any duplication by other companies until we release these exhaust systems, so all our info must remain proprietary until release.
-Jayson
05-26-2005, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JMS001
This is the highest output exhaust system on the market so far on an NA car.
We have done, extensive dyno testing and have very good results, which by the way contradict your statement about the power band.
We will show all our dyno figures and test results after we have completed our first production run. We do not want any duplication by other companies until we release these exhaust systems, so all our info must remain proprietary until release.
-Jayson
Edited: didnt know your car *was* the scionspeed turbo kit
05-27-2005, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by toastbox
Originally Posted by JMS001
This is the highest output exhaust system on the market so far on an NA car.
We have done, extensive dyno testing and have very good results, which by the way contradict your statement about the power band.
We will show all our dyno figures and test results after we have completed our first production run. We do not want any duplication by other companies until we release these exhaust systems, so all our info must remain proprietary until release.
-Jayson
Edited: didnt know your car *was* the scionspeed turbo kit
There are alot of exhaust companies out there, and we are not taking that chance.
Benefit of the doubt?? What would I have to gain by BSing anybody?? Like I said before when the exhaust system is released you will see dyno sheets. I guess you will just have to wait and see, and when you see the full exhaust system and how its made I think you will understand why.
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05-29-2005, 04:40 AM
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So what's taking so long? The prototype seems to work very well.
I'd personally liked to get my hands on one since I have a new turbo fund.
(not saying turbo necessitates the dual exhaust or vice versa, just that it makes more sense to me)
BTW, does it come in more than one size? I see that the current prototype is a 3" so I could see how the tuning of the other size pipes would take long.
JMS001, why don't you post a little list of all the information that has been released about this dual exhuast system? It'd make things easier as it's quite difficult to dig through all six pages.
Question though: wouldn't splitting the pipe just create more turbulence? I understand the use of two exhaust pipes starting from the header with a dual 6-2 on a v6 but since we have a 4-1 (important part being the '1') how would splitting the exhaust pipe help and not hurt? Not to mention the split would have two 3" pipes (i think) so there would be a total of 6" cavern space which would act as a little mini vortex area that would collect the gases before fresh exhaust gas expels them from that little bay and out of the two pipes.
That's my understanding in any case. I would appreciate it if someone clarified the advantages (not the disadvantages, I'm pretty familiar with a few of those) of a dual exhaust system.
I'd personally liked to get my hands on one since I have a new turbo fund.
(not saying turbo necessitates the dual exhaust or vice versa, just that it makes more sense to me)
BTW, does it come in more than one size? I see that the current prototype is a 3" so I could see how the tuning of the other size pipes would take long.
JMS001, why don't you post a little list of all the information that has been released about this dual exhuast system? It'd make things easier as it's quite difficult to dig through all six pages.
Question though: wouldn't splitting the pipe just create more turbulence? I understand the use of two exhaust pipes starting from the header with a dual 6-2 on a v6 but since we have a 4-1 (important part being the '1') how would splitting the exhaust pipe help and not hurt? Not to mention the split would have two 3" pipes (i think) so there would be a total of 6" cavern space which would act as a little mini vortex area that would collect the gases before fresh exhaust gas expels them from that little bay and out of the two pipes.
That's my understanding in any case. I would appreciate it if someone clarified the advantages (not the disadvantages, I'm pretty familiar with a few of those) of a dual exhaust system.
05-29-2005, 03:25 PM
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the supposed increase in hp over a standard single catback would be null because of the increase in weight. a good 2.5" full exhaust would be the best for up to 250hp (crank) n/a or turbo with 3" for turbo beyond that.
dual exhaust is really just a show car mod unless this is the first 4 banger ever to get gains from it LOL
dual exhaust is really just a show car mod unless this is the first 4 banger ever to get gains from it LOL
05-30-2005, 01:16 AM
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A 5" exhaust that gets results would be SEXY.
The point I made was that if there is enough intake than a proportional increase should be made on the exhaust end.
A jet engine's exhaust is bigger than 5"
It's a different kind of engine I know but it's still a combustion with oxygen being burned up with a fuel's bonds being broken and whatnot making waste products (in this case, the "waste" is propelling the vehicle) that are being shot off. Say, a ram jet will gulp up air, thus, the 24" exhaust
The point I made was that if there is enough intake than a proportional increase should be made on the exhaust end.
A jet engine's exhaust is bigger than 5"
It's a different kind of engine I know but it's still a combustion with oxygen being burned up with a fuel's bonds being broken and whatnot making waste products (in this case, the "waste" is propelling the vehicle) that are being shot off. Say, a ram jet will gulp up air, thus, the 24" exhaust