tC rpm at 60mph
#23
Not all 6-speeds are like this. Ex. a new Corvette or the 04-06 GTO. 1st gear tops out at 60 mph (takes the tc three grears to get to that speed).
Why do people worry about rpm speed at hwy speeds? Your throttle position plays a bigger role in your gas mileage than rpms. My bro's JDM b16 tranny in his Civic revs even higher than the tC. At 70 its at 4.5k rpms and he can still get over 30 mpg.
Why do people worry about rpm speed at hwy speeds? Your throttle position plays a bigger role in your gas mileage than rpms. My bro's JDM b16 tranny in his Civic revs even higher than the tC. At 70 its at 4.5k rpms and he can still get over 30 mpg.
A Corvette Z06 would top out at redline in 6th gear at 300mph if it was not restricted by aero drag. That is why every Corvette owner can brag about being able to hit 30mpg on the highway with a 7-liter motor (the small frontal area contribute a bit to this as well) even though they usually average 15-18mpg if driven normally. Personally I do a lot of highway driving and I'd love a super long 5th gear. If I ever get a reason to open up the tranny I'll definitely swap in a Camry final drive. 1st gear is almost useless it's so short, and 5th is a bit shorter than I'd like. I've taken our '09 on three 2,000+ mile road trips and the best mileage I've been able to get is 32.3 on a full tank. Very disappointing for a small car with a four-cylinder.
My 1.6l Miata does 60mph at about 3500 and even cruising at 75mph it will still get ~35mpg. My 1985 MR2 is the same way. But that doesn't change the fact that if they had a longer gear they could still do better (40-50mpg is not out of the question).
#24
i agree, unless i am at a full stop, i will never shift back to 1st gear, and i always skip 4th gear and go from 3rd to 5th... one time i was on a long trip and rented a 2002camry 4cylinder, i did about 540miles without before hitting the gas station, and i had 3 passengers and a few bags too, but still, it gets better mileage on the freeway than a 5spd tc... well... lets hope the next gen tc with get better mpg... and more power
#27
I will concur on said upper threads about gas mileage. I'd say for the MPG/power ratio it isn't my favorite. On average I get about 345~ ish miles per tank, which is roughly 23.79 mpg and I do mostly highway driving, yes I'm aware that driving a mt it's also dependant on how you drive it, but farely I'm generous with keeping it low. I also wish it ran around 1.9~2.4k at 70~75mph but we'd need some changes for that, obviously. What can you do. The car is fantastic, and despite crusing speeds it's still very nice. But to keep the threat farely on topic, I get about 3krpms at 65ish and 4+ at 75/80 my general crusing speed but I can thank that to my 9500i radar detector lol
#31
I don't understand why there are people complaining about people complaining about poor gas mileage. The tC is not a sportscar, it's just a cheap, semi-sporty coupe that is more economical/practical than it is sporty. We bought ours because it was a great deal for the money, it's small and fairly nice looking, and it's practical for just the wife and I. I would have preferred it with a smaller motor though if it would get better mileage, though I do enjoy the fat torque band of the 2AZ. Remember we are driving 2900lb four-cylinder front-drivers. People who have owned other FWD four-cylinder small cars understand why this is disappointing.
However after owning and driving the car for a while, I think that the power to mpg ratio is actually not that bad. Our window sticker says 20/27 for our 2009 manual car, but over 29,000 miles of driving we've achieved almost 29mpg in mixed driving (http://www.fuelly.com/driver/bentheswift/tc). A 2AZ-powered Camry is only rated at 21/31mpg, and our car has at least matched that rating. I would have been extremely disappointed if we only got 23-24mpg in mixed driving in a 2900lb, 160hp FWD. 29mpg is not great, but it's not that bad either. I would be happier with more highway mpgs.
Additionally, based on the car's performance, I think the tC's motor is a bit underrated too. R&T tested an early car at 7.4 seconds from 0-60 and 15.6s in the quarter mile. Compare that to a new 2.4l Kia Forte Koup, for example, which has 13 more horsepower and is slightly lighter, but road tests are showing it may not break out of the 8s from 0-60 and the 16s in the quarter mile! And the 07+ tC's are even a bit faster than the early cars. The Forte is rated at 22/32 which, at least according to our mileage, is on par with the tC, and what's worse is that it costs more and has fewer standard features.
So I was a bit skeptical of the tC when we bought it (it's the wife's car and was her pick) but after 1.5 years of ownership I've been convinced. It's a great car, practical, more than enough room for two, classy looking, and was still a great bargain even in the fifth model year.
#34
my bro's tc1 is about 80 at 3k and 60 at 2.5k if I remember right, it is an auto.
Amazing what a difference, I have a tc2 automatic, 60 is at 1800RPM. if you can keep your foot out of it the MPG meter reads 40MPG lol...until you get to a hill.
Amazing what a difference, I have a tc2 automatic, 60 is at 1800RPM. if you can keep your foot out of it the MPG meter reads 40MPG lol...until you get to a hill.
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