Creative Compacts has made a Short Ram Intake for the TC called "Weapon R Secret Weapon" for the TC.

They Dynoed it on a Stock TC and had a 13HP Gain! Im all over this now, Cause I doubt the Injen or AEM will ever top this..Even w/ a CAI.

Heres some pics:








I think it looks bad ___ and hes selling it for 240.00, Not a bad Price..

Do you guys think Injen can top this?! and would you buy it?

These are Lvnurs9 Pics*

 

short ram air pipes are often just as good, but $240.00 is ridiculous

that thing should be no more than $100.00
if it was priced about $100.00 i would buy one

i agree it does look pretty ****** good!

 

Is there a dyno sheet to go along with the 13hp claim?

Did they dyno it w/ the hood up? I'm no intake expert - but it looks like that thing would suck in a lot of hot air from the engine bay.

Like I siad...not an expert...just curious...and $250 does seem a bit steep.

Happy motoring.

 

And that filter is way close to the MAF sensor. Might have problems..$240?!!! Wow thats high for such a simple piece.

 

Yeh $240 does seem a little much for that product... I mean even it it does gain 13hp its not beacause they made some special design or anything

 

I highly doubt that short ram intake can make 13hp with the hood closed. Typical gains from short ram intakes are 4-6hp because they draw hot air from the engine. the hood had to have open while testing. I would never buy that thing, it is not a name i can trust. It seems too sketch to me. Ingen is a name ican trust because plenty of people use their products and it is of known quality. And yes, it is very over-priced. It is just a scam

 

Theres the Dyno Sheet



Intake Gained 12.91HP over STOCK Intake on completely STOCK tC!

Weapon*R Intakes are CNC Mandrel Bent out of 6061 aluminum, and are flow tuned to match every engine application to maximize engine output. Instructions and all hardware is included in the kit. To further improve performance gains from an intake system, we have developed an Air Turbulence Defuser which is Tig-welded into the air stream of MOST of our intake pipes. The Defuser is strategically placed in the intake pipe to create a harmonic balance in the air charge, which straightens the airflow and creates a Hyper Combustible formation of air intake charge. To increase intake charge, we developed the Secret Weapon Filter, which features an internal tuned flow velocity stack design and Air Turbulence guides to maximize gains. Weapon*R uses the highest quality High Flow 4PLy Poly Urethane Foam to ensure a protected high performance engine. Many studies have shown Higher flow & Better Dirt Filtration with Foam Filter and the conventional cotton filter. Flow rates of up to 80% more Air, which increases your engines performance.

WR Secret Weapon is compared to AEM V2 Intakes developed for other vehicles. When dyno tested on other cars in which AEM V2 Is available, WR Secret Weapon Intake dynoed better HP numbers and computer calculated 1/4 mile times.


Thats the Description of it all..

 

$240 bucks??

Yes I would and even want to buy it...But for about 3-4 feet of 3-4 inch of metal piping...?

what, is the air filter the expensive part?? What, is it made of Llama hair or something??

 

hehe yea I know, Im trying 2 talk him down but I dunno..

But 13 HP? Come on, Injen cant do better than that

 

Did the torque go down or am I misreading that dyno sheet?

 

Oh ____..I didnt see that..

Wow..

 

What's with all the welding? Could they not bend a single piece properly or something?

 

Let's see a dyno sheet of before and after...then we'll talk...

 

I was under the impression that the 126.79 hp and 142.02 tq run was the baseline. I have no idea what the two runs in between the high and low are.

Also, found this on the Weapon R site:
It looks like the intake has a smaller tube inside which is described here:
That could be one of the reasons the whole thing isn't mandrel bent. Here's a pic from lvnurs9's Cardomain site:



And not to beat this to death, but doesn't the intake below, which I believe is the one installed on lvnurs9's car, look different than the pic I included below it? It doesn't even look like the lower one will fit. The part that connects to the throttle body (on the left) seems to be missing a bend.

 

that smaller tube inside is basically AEM's V2 style intakes. those are significantly better than a regular tube, BUT i'd say its still sketchy. Their baseline dyno was 126whp eh? no one else concerned about that? the baseline should have been around 135.

if it was 126 thats 21.25% drivetrain loss. The tc should be around 15% loss.

 

13hp is the max and 6hp is the min...so there's no guarantee that you will get 13hp out of it...more like 6-13?...and temps were in the upper 60's...I imagine gains would be significantly lower in a hotter climate (and w/ the hood closed?)...if I am reading it correctly.

 

what is the significance of the numbers on the .drf files? if they are sequential, then he made a little torque and dropped power.

 

hmm.. interesting DYNO ... 13HP gain.. that's prob the greatest gain ever from any intake. I've never heard or seen such a gain...simply from an intake alone.

Only prob I have is the fact that it's short ram... i wish the intake could be longer and go down into the lower front bumper area..where all the cool air is inducted rather than to sit inside the engine well where all the engine heat is trapped ... and sucked into the intake. I doubt hot air really helps the engine ...

and for $240...way too much for an intake. maybe $150 sounds more reasonable ...especially for a short ram.

 

ehhh anyone read what i wrote about the dyno??

 

Hmm yea..He said its compared to the AEM V2 Version..

I also thought that the baseline WHP should be like 135 Like Demon Eyez said..

Where'd 126 come from?

::Scratchin' My Head::

Injen hurry up..