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Old 08-18-2004, 04:06 PM
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has neone installed this or tried it out? Just wondering if it's a decent alternative to the actual supercharger???

http://www.turbonator.com/index.html
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Supercharge your car, truck, van, boat, RV, or motorcycle in 5 minutes.
Anybody that makes those kinds of claims has got to be on crack!! Sounds like the same thing as the Tornado. It's a bunch of hype, it might improve fuel consumption and increase power a little bit. But IMO it's a waste of money. Take that 70 bucks and go buy a K&N filter or the like and a couple of CDs.

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Old 08-18-2004, 10:54 PM
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lol this is funny


If you don't feel comfortable installing it, have your mechanic do it for you. If he doesn't install it for free, find a new mechanic.
you should buy it and post some pics of this phat mod.
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the only thing missing from the description is that it adds "mad torque steer"

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I wonder if Arnold Schwartzneger is suing..or mabye he has one put on his Hummer. That would be hot!
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Ever see those late night infomercials from about 10 years ago with the guy in the sweater lighting cars on fire and spraypainting bald peoples' heads? Kinda reminds me of that. I kept expecting to read that they were including the amazing super chamois and a bottle of their supercharged fuel supplement with every order free..

You know what? I think they should make an infomercial for this thing. I would watch it for a while, but then would blow a hernia from laughter.

I'll just keep the plastic fans away from my intake, thanks.

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Old 08-21-2004, 06:29 AM
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simply put more HP=more money, there are some relatively inexpensive things, but you are still talking $100+
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As someone who experimented with an identical product years ago........I can say this: I did feel a difference after install. At high speed, when the air was really moving into the engine, I felt a more consistent and stronger acceleration.

Was it worth it? No!

Why? Aside from the fact that it was not a hugely noticeable difference........IT ALMOST F*CKING KILLED ME.

These things are snipped and bent into shape out of flimsy metal.

I was driving down the road one day when my car started to accelerate out of control as if I had the gas pedal floored. It would continue doing this even with my foot completely off the gas pedal.....NOT GOOD. It decided to do this as I was approaching a part of the road that curves nearly 90 degrees........EVEN WORSE. As I was approaching this turn..........my car was approaching 90 miles per hour. This car was a 1987 240 Volvo. Not a high performance handling machine.........though if I did crash, at least I was riding in a tank. To decrease my speed in order to take the turn I had to shift into neutral......allowing my engine to rev out of control and probably close to destruction. I was able to slow down and take the turn. However, this street not only curved, it was also uphill. So, once around the turn, I had to shift back into drive to get up the hill to a safe stopping point. I threw it back into drive, which sounded really bad on the tranny and probably was. Again, the car was accelerating out of my control.......so once I got far enough up the hill to a point where I could pull into a parking lot of some sort, I turned the car off.......and coasted into a parking lot with my power steering and brakes disabled now cause my car was turned off.

Now safely stopped in the parking lot, I took a few moments to make sure I was actually still alive and then thank God and my lucky stars for that fact. Then it was time to figure out what the hell just happened. So, I got out of the car, popped the hood, looked around, and started scratching my head. I spent a few minutes head scratching, and feeling completely stumped, when all of a sudden a light went on in my head. I thought to myself "Oh geeze.........you gotta be sh*tting me." I pulled a screw driver out of my car, and disconnected my intake tube from my throttle body. I reached my fingers into the throttle body, and sure enough the throttle plate was wedged open (hence the out of control acceleration). Wedging it open was a piece of metal. I pulled the piece of metal out, and it was one of the blades of this POS wannabe power increasing modification.

THAT DAMN THING FELL APART INSIDE MY ENGINE.......AND COULD HAVE KILLED ME AND OTHERS IN THE PROCESS. The slight power increase that I thought I felt was NOT WORTH the risk that it created.

DON'T BUY THIS PRODUCT. REAL power increases are gonna cost you money........just get used to it. If you want any significant power increase, the least expensive option will be a well designed and installed nitrous set up.

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Yea, that happened to a rather naive friend of mine -- 1997 Honda CRV -- he was running a Tornado. It came off and went into the engine, and ended up doing serious damage to his engine (poor b20 didn't stand a chance )

Two words -- HORSE ____!
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Originally Posted by jdaniels
Yea, that happened to a rather naive friend of mine -- 1997 Honda CRV -- he was running a Tornado. It came off and went into the engine, and ended up doing serious damage to his engine (poor b20 didn't stand a chance )

Two words -- HORSE ____!
How could it go into the engine? I could see maybe it getting stuck near the TB or maybe even under a strange condition getting into the manifold but beyound that ever thing is much smaller then the tornado would be. So please explain more if you dont mind.
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I could see a piece of it coming off and geting past the TB but not the whole thing in one piece :? :? :?
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here is the line to save their butt from all the hype "Your results with the Turbonator will probably, but not necessarily, be less"..so really I dont think it will mess up anything but at most probably give you 10 hp and also maybe a 5-10% fuel difference which still isnt bad...
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Guys........READ! It's not a matter of the whole thing going into your engine. Mine BROKE APART..........and a PIECE of it got stuck in the throttle body. A smaller piece could have easily gotten past the throttle body and into the intake manifold, cylinder head, etc.

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A similar thing happened to my mom back when I was around 9 or 10. We went to one of those $20 oil change places and they also replaced the breather and air filter in my folks escort. We left the place and my mom went to pass somebody and the clip from the breather feel into the tb and held the butterfly wide open. Man that was scary. :?
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Originally Posted by jethro b
I could see a piece of it coming off and geting past the TB but not the whole thing in one piece :? :? :?

Assclown, read back -- I replied to him saying a piece came off -- and I said it happened to my buddy. I didn't say the whole thing went inside the engine.
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here is the line to save their butt from all the hype "Your results with the Turbonator will probably, but not necessarily, be less"..so really I dont think it will mess up anything but at most probably give you 10 hp and also maybe a 5-10% fuel difference which still isnt bad...
It won't give a bit of horsepower, it's a piece of ____ scam. If anything it's only going to obstruct the air flow and cause horsepower loss.

The device is a fan that mounts in your intake and supposedly pushes in more air like a turbo would do, hence the name. Truth is, turbos work at high tempratures with very high levels of compression, which a piece of ____ aluminum fan will never be able to do or even come close to. It's a weak fan that draws power from your battery, you could probably stop it with your finger.

If you read the site they give no real dyno'd results and rely solely on personal experience comments from people who couldn't tell you how much horsepower their car had in the first place. The site claims that the device has been dyno'd but never offers graphs or even precise data. The supposed dyno's were probably performed on cars with restrictive factory airboxes with the hood open. Open hood = more cool air to an engine that normally sucks in hot air due to the poor intake.

The 10-15% gains claim comes from those personal experience claims, read the site.-
"I purchased two Turbonators for my Chrysler Sebring and immediately noticed the increase in power. It was more than I expected. I am already noticing the improved gas mileage. I like them so much, I am ordering two more for my brothers. Now, it feels like my car has a turbo charger." - Dr. Brian Coyle (San Jose, CA)
Lol, twin turbo huh? How is TWO going to do any good.? Say I do buy into this, what is TWO of them going to do? These are inline fans here and increases in performance come from higher compression. You will not get higher compression with an extra fan.

"In a completely stock 99' Dodge Neon sport, I gained ten horses and went from 34-37 wheel horsepower to 44-47 wheel horsepower (using a G-Tech Pro performance meter). I have also noted (when I drive responsibly) a gain in gas mileage. I also lost a full second off my Quarter-mile times; from 16.8 to 15.8 and probably could have done better with more time with the G-Tech."
After reading that one, does anyone have a doubt that this is a scam? Jesus, a real turbo is hardly going to get you those gains on a Dodge Neon. And note, this is "wheel horsepower" here people, this boy is serious.

"This device made my Pontiac perform smoothly and with faster acceleration. I honestly felt a 20 horsepower gain. It's hard to believe considering it's such an inexpensive device. Within a two month period, It paid for itself from the gas savings. I told all my friends about it and they now think it is as incredible as I do."
Yet another great one. How do you "feel" 20 horsepower? I mean, you could feel an increase, but how are you gonna nail it down to 20 horsepower?

Regardless of the breaking potential, no one should be wasting their money on something like this. If it seems too good to be true, it is.
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Old 08-24-2004, 07:29 AM
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And I swear to God that crappy company is paying people to bring this thing up on car forums. EVERY car forum I visit has had this brought up (No offense to the topic starter, I'm not accusing you of anything. )
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It is NOT a fan. It does NOT spin. It is NOT powered by anything. It is a stationary object. The fanlike blades do NOT move at all. The unit simply sits inside of your intake tube and swirls the air as it passes the blades, creating, supposedly, a type of "vortex" that causes a fast and better mixture of air and fuel and thus a more consistent and stronger combustion.

The only time it moves is when it breaks apart and gets stuck in various parts of your engine and almost kills you.

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LOL...I love these cheesy scams. I wonder if they give out sponsorships.
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It is NOT a fan. It does NOT spin. It is NOT powered by anything. It is a stationary object. The fanlike blades do NOT move at all. The unit simply sits inside of your intake tube and swirls the air as it passes the blades, creating, supposedly, a type of "vortex" that causes a fast and better mixture of air and fuel and thus a more consistent and stronger combustion
:oops: You're right about the turbonator, I got it confused with a different one. There are a few different models available. They advertise in car mags a lot.
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