You can burn a hole in a piston without doing any of this stuff. AMHIK.

Properly tuned, all power adders can be great. The only reason to skip N2O is because you know you are an addict, and you'll be refilling that bottle like a crackhead.

Then the addiction gets so bad, you put on this unbelievably big turbo that NEEDS N2O to spool before 5000 rpm. That's when you know the bug has bitten deep.

There is no reason to believe that N2O is any better or worse than any other power adder. HOWEVER, since you don't have the ability to sufficiently retard ignition timing, you may have long term problems, but they will be no different than anyone else faces with a different power added. If you get an eManage or F-Con V to handle the engine on boost (of any kind), then you should have no worries about long term except ring life because rings wear faster with greater pressure. ALL power adders increase the stress on your rings.

 

dollar for dollar nos is cheaper.... but when u got sc or turbo.... and sum punk with a mustang rolls up u dont have to worry about is my bottle full??? lol but if u hardcore nut just turbo with nos and ull beat the turbo guys and the nos guys

 

NOS is cheaper maybe for 1 bottle. but after a while the refills and such add up.

 

So does race gas at $6 a gallon when you want to push 25 psi...

 

Exactly! Nitrous does leave residue behind.

 

Please elaborate, I've never heard of this. It would seem curious that nitrogen and oxygen, the major components of the air we breathe would leave behind a "residue" unless you are talking about the sulfur they use to poison the N2O for human use.

 

How much is, let's say, 15lbs bottle refill, and how long will it last (in seconds) if it's a 50 shot on a 2.4L?

 

this is true as my 24 pounds of boost Shelby I had used a super60 (old phrase) computer that swithched between 94 oct 14 pounds to a modified 24 pound 108 (at the time funny enough $3 gal.

yes it is also true not having 94 in the tank i would not or should not hit the nos so it comes down to the nos fuel additives if you want to do it on a 87 fill up or just striaght up 94 when you fill up knowing your going to hit it for fun or track etc..

no set up is perfect but it screams bang for the buck

 

To do it the fun way, you'd need a wet nozzle an a separate fuel tank with 100 octane. Then you could run 87 unless you are at WOT on the juice, then you'd spray an 87/100 mix (probably enough octane, but you'd want to be sure) when you really need the improved detonation resistance. Then of course, all this fabrication gets expensive, and you start thinking about turbos and superchargers again.

zoltiz, I really don't know the magic numbers for a 15 lb bottle. I know what a 3 liter turbo engine does to one of those, but I really don't know what to expect from a single fill on the 2AZ. I do know the 2AZ moves about 263 CFM of air at 100% VE at redline, and there are conversions for most gases to let you know how much is in a bottle, but without actually running one, I really wouldn't want to say.

 

you don't have to run gas in a nitrous setup?

 

I think he was just thinking higher octane cost involved with extreme boost?

 

to match the power of 25psi on a turbo with the same shot of nitrous would 100% without a doubt require the same gas

 

I agree that a 100hp shot would require 100 octane ( I would think ) if I ever did it I would either go for a 50-75 shot but really would not want to get into second fuel tanks etc..so I would keep it simple. Matty I like many hope the SC tunrs out to be 80 hp for $3000!

 

you and me both. it would bring a lot more attention to the car.

 

Time to start running Xylene.

 

on nx website they say something like a 75 shot will last around 3 min straight of constaint spraying that is alot of passes in the 1/4 mile lol

unless your a dumb ___ and spray all up and down the street on your way to walmart hahaha (not directed twords you but to idiots who spray up and down the damn streets or purge there pos sohc 4 door civic on my tc's paint)

 

ok this is my first post and i am a future scion owner.
but i do owm a 1.6 liter civic ex.

Ive been spraying nitrous for the past 2 years, 75 shot. no problems whatsoever.

anyways to say turbos are faster is incorrect. i spray wot right off the line, have beat lexus is300, turbo civic hatch running 7psi, turbo neon (notsrt-4), built 350 chevelle on slicks, police crown victoria supercharged, police cutlass spraying with slicks, turbo eclipse at 12psi...and the list goes on.

Me I dont use the speed for everyday driving so nitrous is great.
I race at the track on weekends and the bottles last me anywhere from 3-4 weeks to 2-3 months depending on how often i get there, and sometimes for the fun of it on the street i admit i will use it or purge out the hood for ppl who call me ricers andwanna race at the stop light, that usually stops them from going.

so my point is i havent spent anywhere near $3500

kit for $300 (used zex wet kit, purge, gauges, blowdown tube)
2+years $45 bottle - $1000
so $1300, its starting to get expensive.

nitrous is extremely safe nowdays if u know what ur doing, know ur engine limits, dont spray for so and so long, fuel upgrades, colder plugs, timing, etc.

the one downfall that i dont think is mentioned above is even though ur running a 75hp jet. chances are u wont get that.

u need to keep the pressure up, to get max hp, once the bottle gets near half empty you can feel the difference in loss in power, and cold days, huge difference also. theres ways around that also but then it just gets moreand more expensive

 

"to say turbos are faster is incorrect"


uhh
so this mustang i know with over 1400whp (maxed out dyno) is actually slower than your 1.6L 75 shot honda?

 

apples to oranges

obviosly not right?

im talking same to same, stock engine with 6psi trd supecharger, or stock engine 75shot nitrous.

not a 3000hp alcohol injected unibody drag car running 30 psi to a 1.5l 108hp scion xb running a sneaky pete 15hp shot of nitrous....i mean come on

 

6psi on the correctly sized turbo vs 75 shot turbo will win hands down....