WR / MMW Header Review ( PICS )
#1
WR / MMW Header Review ( PICS )
Alright were do i start, lol. I know that there are already a few reviews on this header, but i would like to say what i think about it.
First Off, I bought this header back in early january from Creative Compacts / Promotion Tuning. Took maybe a week or so and it came in the mail via ups. When I opened the box i could see already that i was going to have problems with this header. The flange on the top was not at all were it should have been. It did not meet up with the metal gasket, and i ended up having an exhaust leak. Istalation was fun ( ha). The header did not fit very well. Were the donut gasket and the s-pipe meet, was hitting HITTING the engine support brace.
I called weapon-r direct, and spoke to Chris quit a few times, and to the best of there efforts, there was nothing really they could do besides send me out another one. just to make sure, i drove to the muffler shop and the owner told me that there was nothing wrong with the install i did, but just the design in the header.
Im not ____ed because i figure these are handmade, it is aftermarket, and things happen. So chris sent me an all new header and s-pipe combo in the mail in which i just got 2 1/2 weeks ago. installed everything allover to discover that the new header was flawless, and that the flange was perfect this time, however. the CEL eliminator was hitting HITTING the lower controll arm.
Now i was ____ed beacuse installing this header the first time and second time was a Bitc*, and i did not want to install a third one. I called Chris Again and he could not believe why it was hitting because they test fitted the header they gave me on a tC just to make sure it was Right. I took the s-pipe off, compared to 2, to find out the old s-pipe was LONGER than the new one by atleast 1 /12 inches. Damn. Leaving the CEL eliminator in a different location.
Out of curiosity, i installed the OLD s-pipe with the NEW header, and it was perfect, PERFECT! Finally. So im shipping back the old header and new s-pipe today to them so i dont get charged for 2 headers.
As far as the CEL, the new one and old one did not throw a CEL, but the old one THrew a light only when you were on the highway at around 85-90 MPH. I went to Autozone, and the code came up as ( Bank one, Sensor 2, LOW voltage ). I think it was the exhaust leak from the old header. I have not gotten a chance to go on the highway yet to test this one, but i will let you all know if it comes on.
Also, This header has very little rasp in the higher rpms, but absolutley none when your not WOT.
Anyways, I give weapon-r:
Customer servive 10 - 10
Install 8 - 10
Product 7 - 10
Current mods are Injen intake and custom axle back. Im going to the muffler shop today to get my full mid-pipe done as well.
Sorry for the long post. Now the PICS! enjoy:
First Off, I bought this header back in early january from Creative Compacts / Promotion Tuning. Took maybe a week or so and it came in the mail via ups. When I opened the box i could see already that i was going to have problems with this header. The flange on the top was not at all were it should have been. It did not meet up with the metal gasket, and i ended up having an exhaust leak. Istalation was fun ( ha). The header did not fit very well. Were the donut gasket and the s-pipe meet, was hitting HITTING the engine support brace.
I called weapon-r direct, and spoke to Chris quit a few times, and to the best of there efforts, there was nothing really they could do besides send me out another one. just to make sure, i drove to the muffler shop and the owner told me that there was nothing wrong with the install i did, but just the design in the header.
Im not ____ed because i figure these are handmade, it is aftermarket, and things happen. So chris sent me an all new header and s-pipe combo in the mail in which i just got 2 1/2 weeks ago. installed everything allover to discover that the new header was flawless, and that the flange was perfect this time, however. the CEL eliminator was hitting HITTING the lower controll arm.
Now i was ____ed beacuse installing this header the first time and second time was a Bitc*, and i did not want to install a third one. I called Chris Again and he could not believe why it was hitting because they test fitted the header they gave me on a tC just to make sure it was Right. I took the s-pipe off, compared to 2, to find out the old s-pipe was LONGER than the new one by atleast 1 /12 inches. Damn. Leaving the CEL eliminator in a different location.
Out of curiosity, i installed the OLD s-pipe with the NEW header, and it was perfect, PERFECT! Finally. So im shipping back the old header and new s-pipe today to them so i dont get charged for 2 headers.
As far as the CEL, the new one and old one did not throw a CEL, but the old one THrew a light only when you were on the highway at around 85-90 MPH. I went to Autozone, and the code came up as ( Bank one, Sensor 2, LOW voltage ). I think it was the exhaust leak from the old header. I have not gotten a chance to go on the highway yet to test this one, but i will let you all know if it comes on.
Also, This header has very little rasp in the higher rpms, but absolutley none when your not WOT.
Anyways, I give weapon-r:
Customer servive 10 - 10
Install 8 - 10
Product 7 - 10
Current mods are Injen intake and custom axle back. Im going to the muffler shop today to get my full mid-pipe done as well.
Sorry for the long post. Now the PICS! enjoy:
#3
Hey man, congrats on the awesome header. Mine will be here tomorrow and hopefully will be installed on Saturday. I was anxious to see how well it works with the TRD supercharger. I believe I'll be the first to use the MMW header/s-pipe with the TRD blower. Did you replace the header gasket with a new one?
#6
That is an AWSOME looking header! Congrats. I have a Megan, I love it as well, tons cheaper and fit flawless the first time ;) But I have to hand it to ya, that is by far allot better looking than the megan!
#9
Originally Posted by Scion-ce
I was wondering because some people say its absolutely necessary to replace the gasket and others say its not necessary.
Good luck with the header install
#10
dammit. I just got mine in the mail, and i have the same problem the other guy did. The first runner was too short, so they added like a 1" piece of pipe and welded it in to extend it. I don't know if I should send it back for another one. What do you ya'll think?
#12
Originally Posted by desertheat
that sucks man They totally have to get there quality up before they charge so freaking much for a header.
Just be glad the price dropped, I paid much more for mine.
#15
I hope it is, looks like a great header but MAN! If I paid that kinda cash for a header it better be flawless and fit flawless the first time. Almost everyone I have heard of that ordered that header has had issues.
#16
Just got off the phone with Leo from MMW. He was extremely helpful and we worked it out. He is finishing the welds on new MMW header and shipping it out to me today. I will be sending the other one back. That is great service. He got off the phone with so that he could finish welding the header to get it out to me today. for MMW.
I know others have had the same issues. As I have said before, these ARE hand made and variances WILL occur. Whats important here is that they are doing everything they can to make it right.
I know others have had the same issues. As I have said before, these ARE hand made and variances WILL occur. Whats important here is that they are doing everything they can to make it right.
#17
what exhaust systems are you guys running with it?
I am considering this header but keeping the stock exhaust (for noise). Anyone else running this set-up?
What are your feelings about the sound of this header vs stock?
Did this header truely fix the CEL problem?
I am considering this header but keeping the stock exhaust (for noise). Anyone else running this set-up?
What are your feelings about the sound of this header vs stock?
Did this header truely fix the CEL problem?
#18
Originally Posted by pkg
what exhaust systems are you guys running with it?
I am considering this header but keeping the stock exhaust (for noise). Anyone else running this set-up?
What are your feelings about the sound of this header vs stock?
Did this header truely fix the CEL problem?
I am considering this header but keeping the stock exhaust (for noise). Anyone else running this set-up?
What are your feelings about the sound of this header vs stock?
Did this header truely fix the CEL problem?
#19
Originally Posted by Scion-ce
Originally Posted by pkg
what exhaust systems are you guys running with it?
I am considering this header but keeping the stock exhaust (for noise). Anyone else running this set-up?
What are your feelings about the sound of this header vs stock?
Did this header truely fix the CEL problem?
I am considering this header but keeping the stock exhaust (for noise). Anyone else running this set-up?
What are your feelings about the sound of this header vs stock?
Did this header truely fix the CEL problem?
Depending on which full exhausts kits with resonators / silencers are available when i am ready to buy will get my money. Right now i am willing to give up some horsies to keep my car quiet ;)