rhythmnsmoke

Is that listed on the website?

I think this is the same message I was preaching to people a long time ago when ever we got into the Big turbo vs Smaller turbo debate. I kept saying "for the street" you want a faster spooling smaller turbo. For built motors, you want the bigger larger turbo. Yet everyone still had the mentality that bigger is better even though it was a stock motor. Car needs to rev higher to place large turbos "further" into their efficency range. Not that it's not efficient now, just saying when compared to another stock motor with a smaller turbo. My turbo is smaller, but still has a top end that is on par with the larger two.

rhythmnsmoke

Ok...cool. I wasn't mad, I was just confused in what you were getting at. That was just frustration typing, cause I was not understanding the post.

However, I will make mention of one thing. Even though you speak of gear ratios holding a car to a specific mph....the thing you have to take into consideration, is the amount of HP the car has to reach that mph. All you have is a time variable to go by, as you can't see the rpm, speedo. So, all you have to go by is...."he stayed in that gear for x amount of time, so his mph should be this". That's going to change from a car that has 250whp to a car that has 300whp. You see what I'm getting at. The length of time will be shorten for a car that has more HP obviously, so that's just food for thought.

CarbonXe

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Nice runs. Few things though. Music, gtfo.
You def should have let that Mustang pull up next to you .
What kind of camera mount are you using? Gorilla Pod?
Fix your ____.
And Neil, seriously, stfu. Or was that your brother again?

rhythmnsmoke

You guys already had the event? Did I miss the thread? Or it has not come yet?

rhythmnsmoke

I was originally not going to put music in, but I felt since the opening graphics were a bit long, I needed some entertainment while you waited to watch the vid.

I'm using Chase Cam

Fixing will commence soon...

CarbonXe

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I'm glad you didn't put music in during the runs. I CANT ____ING STAND WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT!

I can't wait til I get my turbo, should be end of June, just waiting on the manifold/chargepipes. And I know you're going to comment on TT, so just keep it to yourself, because timing isn't an issue for me, I'm actually considering delaying my entire kit JUST for a Prosport wideband AFR gauge (which doesn't release til end of June, hopefully).

I'll def try to get a video up of me racing my friends Evo. He's running a 58 trim .63 A/R ( i think), puts 372 to the wheels. Should be fun to do a 40 roll.

brett561tc

you can put all the subtitles you want in your video. its not going to make me overlook what i am actually seeing. i can tell when someone lets off, cause you will hear the bov, and the sound of the engine slowing. didnt hear that till after he overtook you. and i sure as hell didnt hear the sound of the speed limiter cutting you off. the only race i saw where you actually beat him was the first, due to traffic.

so we can either do our normal back and fourth. or you can simply just accept that we have a difference of opinion. and next time you make another street ricing video, leave the subtitles out, and let people form there own opinions of the video without your spin.

CarbonXe

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You don't have to drop the throttle completely to back off...

Why am I defending Travis...?

You have to realize that at most, these cars have a difference of 20 whp. There is no way in hell, that someone is going to pull THAT hard on someone else, when they have 20 more whp. Compare it to the other race where Preston gets the jump. Preston is BARELY walking away from Travis.

brett561tc

even when you back off a little from wot you still hear the bov. in the last race between them he pulls away from travis at the same speed he came up on him at in the 2nd race. all of these street racing videos are left open to interpretation. thats why i suggest a soutout at the track. the compulink keeps thing real cut and dry. that way you can compare who is the better driver through 1/4mile times, and who has the better car through trap speeds. plus you wont have to cut a race short due to traffic. also, you cant really say what the difference in whp is as there are no dyno sheets for theses cars.

so how bout it travis? been a while since we've seen a track vid from you. im also curious to see how much of an effect that new clutch/flywheel combo has made.

CarbonXe

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^ Then explain to me why Travis didn't get ___ raped in every race by Preston? If Preston pulled THAT hard on him at about 110mph, then why were they dead even from 40-110? The only possible explanation for Preston to pull that hard, would be if he had nitrous, which he doesn't.

You might as well just say "theyre your friends so they let you win".

brett561tc

because travis has a faster spooling setup that makes better mid-range power, but is not as efficent on the top end. have you ever driven a turbo tc before?

CarbonXe

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Yes. A dezod one when they first came out.

I'm not even going to bother anymore because you obviously think the video was rigged.

brett561tc

see, now your just putting words in other peoples mouths. when did i say the video was rigged? im just stating my opinion here. take it for what its worth. im just calling it how i see it. theres no need to get upset over something so trivial. thats why i keep pushing for a track race. so you can take all the speculation, and opinions out of the equation. we all know travis loves to race his car. and for that i applaud him. but if your gonna do something do it right. take it to the track.

CarbonXe

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I wasn't putting words in your mouth, and I agree on the track bit. However, without an LSD...a tC is as worthless at the track as a Geo Tracker.

brett561tc

not true. myself, mikescion, kenny strickler, 318tc, and probably a few others have all run 12's at the track without an lsd. besides, its not about going out and running ridiculous times im talkin about here. its about using the track as a controlled environment to have there shoutout at, and be able to have an accurate system to base there performance on.

rhythmnsmoke

You can "think" all you want. The difference between what you see in the vid, and "think" is happening, and me is.......I was the one actually driving. It is fruitless for me to sit hear and argue with you when you was not even there, as well as choose to ignore the fact that Preston heard me let off, and asked me if I did to make sure that's what he heard. Like I said, you are entitled to your opinion, but it does not change the video, nor the race results to which I don't care to repeat for the 3rd time. Didn't I just tell you that hitting the actual speed cut was bad for the car? So WHY on earth would I actually "literally" hit the speed cut. Bro, again, the races were to 120mph. If they were to 127mph then yeah I would agree that under those terms of a race, Preston would end up getting to speed cut before me. But as you are fully aware, and I said it already we don't race to speed cut. Again, I was already off the gas before the very moment Preston pulls the car ever so slightly past.


Brett.....I'm not even in boost when Preston hits boost in the second race. By the time I even spooled up, I would say his car was already at 10 PSI. That was not a matter of spool time, that was a matter of when I pressed the gas...Obviously a lot later than he did. The two races before that are the results of me hitting the gas at the same time.....hence pulling 1/2 a car instantly. His car didn't magically gain more power from the kick, I was later on the gas bro....use just a smiggen of common sense ok.


As mentioned earlier, his car could not handle that sort of abuse from a dig. He should be able to do that latter this year, but launching it at a drag strip, I think he might be able to get like 2 runs in before clutch dies.

20tCDude05

Brett knows his stuff. And Carbon, you got guts telling me to be quiet. F*ck you, I never did anything to you.

Anyway, 1/4th mile race is the best way to go, because you are going all out and competing, you cant really do that on the streets because of hazards and cops. That's why I never video races on the street because its worthless.

brett561tc

^^sorry travis. just going off what i see in the video. nothing personal. just giving my opinion on what i saw. i cant say absolutely what happened as i was not there, and have only the video to go on. when do you think he would have a new clutch by?

rhythmnsmoke

It's running 12's when I hit the track (consistently) . You have to give me time to not only get the Z traded in, but to get the proper traction components. Otherwise, it's worthless.

20tCDude05

Brett knows his stuff. And Carbon, you got guts telling me to be quiet. F*ck you, I never did anything to you.

Anyway, 1/4th mile race is the best way to go, because you are going all out and competing, you cant really do that on the streets because of hazards and cops. That's why I never video races on the street because its worthless.