toyota_scion_tc

Look at there turbo kit

Uses BPV instead of a BOV that could have been recirculated, No T-bolt clamps, Is the turbo Ball bearing they don't say, no stainless braded hoses used for feed or return. There were other reasons I would have to look at the kit again.

crush02342002

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absolutly.......doesnt get more true than that but you did forget a couple of kits that are out or atleast i think they are out, vulcan turbo kit, treadstone (i know trav you dont have to say it...lol), sound performance, then thers the atp kits that do not come with intercooler or pipes just a turbo, mani, downpipe pretty much.

ima have to mention Turbo Toyotas of course.... (i know trav you already mentioned it)

crush02342002

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you know after naming off some of thes companies i realized that we are a spoiled group to have all thes kits made available to us....

aftermarket support ftmfw!!!!!!!!!!!!

unxpectederror

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most other car owners would die to get the kinda support we have.

MrBurrito

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well fisrt of all those pieces are put on the kit to make it try and pass carb. but other than that everything is sound think about it with everything stock including the airbox and exhaust i've seen it hit 260-270hp.

waterhurley

lookin into the ptuning kit. looks like hte best bang for the buck. considering it includes the aem fic, ill let the shop install it, crank it down to like 6-7 psi and tune it.

then i can hook up to the aem fic and play with it a bit since i hear the software is brainless to use

waterhurley

question, if i add either the greddy or apexi avc-r boost controllers, will i always have to adjust a/f when i crank the boost down or crank it up?

id much rather have a digitally controlled boost set up so i can easily go from drive mode to race mode.

ifigure it isnt a huge deal if i can hook into the fic but id rather not need a laptop every time i make boost changes

unxpectederror

from what i know you have to get different tunes for different boost levels. get 2 tunes if you want one for daily driving and then one for the track, that's my suggestion.

crush02342002

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not necessarily, i can go from 7psi to 12psi without changing my map. your maps just have to be tuned for your max pressure level, however it is nice to be able to swap between two maps say like a winter map and summer map. the aem fic offers the ability to swap between two maps which helps for such an occasion.

waterhurley

ive been playin with the AEM software this morning with some sample maps. like ive said before im considering buying the aem fic upgrade now for minor tuning for a couple horseys on the stock setup then re-map once the turbo kit is on

i wanna learn to tune my own car and ive been forum surfing between this forum and aem's forum trying to learn more.

think if i call p-tunning and have them take out the AEM FIC i can get a better deal? like i said, i wanna tune a bit stock and learn the differences in power and such, then once i got that down ill put the turbo kit on, let the shop tune it, and ill go back and fine tune it.

looking into it id rather get the upgraded modle that has the boost controller in it (and alls u need to do is buy the solenoid kit) and set up 2 maps, 1 for daily driving, and 1 for killing civics



edit: seeing as how the software has the option for tcs, should i enable it through the AEM fic sincce our tC's dont actually have TCS?

almost dont see the point cuz i warm the tires up with a little 2nd gear roll, slowly pull the brake back while giving it throttle. seems to spin both tires and get them warm. then i line up and take off. i figure the tcs would be good for take off but will suck to warm them up a bit.... i mean its not like i create a smokeshow.... often....

waterhurley

btw if i go with the p-tunnning kit with the garret t03/04e kit with the 625cc injectors, i plan on runnin at 7psi of boost for daily use and crank it up to 8.5 or 9psi to kill _____es.

since the turbo install will also involve lightened pullys and a new clutch, id rather do the fic first.

im an electrical guy anyway and im sure i can install it myself in a few hours with some crimps, soldier, and electrical tape.

i did install 80% of my own remote start

rhythmnsmoke

I bought the wing off of Rado's car. I can't justify the price of their kit though, what they have done to it (stock airbox, bpv...etc. to meet CARB certification), has nothing to do with me. I don't live in Cali, so that's money wasted. PTuning is my path.

rhythmnsmoke

I "guess" Honorable mention can go to Vulcan turbo, treadstone, and sound performance...

We do have a crap load of kit options.

paul_dezod

Thank you Jarrod. That 54 trim is still rocking your world huh?

chintastictc

ok....here we go.....ptuning will give you the absolute best bang for your buck!!!! and whats this turn boost down to 6-7??? oh please keep it simple 8psi is right where you need to be...if i were you i would be looking at 10psi but ..dont waiste money turning it down...8psi is reliable and powerful...please do the wise thing and get the ptuning kit and leave it at there setting at 8psi...done...and there kit looks the best

On3Sh0tBlaz3

Everyones entitled to their opinion of what kit is the best to get but IMO why not just go with a Dezod s1 kit? Keep it on 8lbs of boost and call it a day. Correct me if I am wrong but it seems like they have one of the most bought kits on the market right now and the most R&D as well as many satisfied customers. Isnt the ptuning kit more than a dezod s1 kit? OP said he was looking for something simple granted his price range may be off...

And for 8lbs of boost, I am most definitely having fun with it. I have been in my friends Evos and STIs and although 264whp may not seem like much it pulls like a beast and I can honestly say I am very satisfied (well thats probably where the 290wtq comes in...)

Go to my sig for more info on my setup and see maybe if something similar to that will suit your needs.

PS. I still am going to up the boost eventually, but surprisingly enough right now it is extremely fun.

rhythmnsmoke

No, that's not accurate. Especially on being "most R&D'ed". Sure they have an abundant amount of kits out there....but you can see it also as being...."Do you want to be like everyone else, or do you want to be different?" That's just one aspect of looking at it as well. All the kits are good. And this is just my opinion, but the PTuning kit is "Technological Wise"...far superior than Dezods or TT's, let alone talking about it from a race stand point. PTuning's kit was first proven on a race track, then transcended down to the street. Everything else with the exception of World Racing started from the street and stayed there since they can make a quick buck by offering cheap kits. That's just my opinion, not bashing anyone or their kit choice.

And the sad truth of the matter is, SL'fers/Scion owners are cheap *****, so they want something for nothing. And catering to that said "cheapness" is taken advantage of by sticking with cheap kits/parts. Not to say they offer crappy quality parts or anything, just saying they are more in it for the money, so they want the most return on investment. Kinda like Walmart would offering a low price over a more upscale Target store (which are mostly found in more financially prominent areas).

scikotictc232

has anyone that is bad mouthing the quality of world parts ever even been to cali ? the reason they did everything they did is so they can pass carb testing. i drove through cali coming home from AZ. got pulled over several times for small little things, it was insane. they made me pop my hood twice to make sure everything was carb approved or i was going to get a ticket and i did. got one for modified exhaust. point is cops in cali are looking out for more. its more strict there. using worlds kit if you popped the hood and you see a nice turbo manifold and a turbo your in trouble unless it comes with the little carb approved tag. the turbo they run is a ball bearing. and as far as the lines and clamps, those were made for world racing themselves. they gurantee they will hold up and work good. this kit comes with a life time warranty and makes more power than the ptuning kit. ( from worlds dyno sheets) its not a bad kit but to buy it and getting it installed you are a few grand off your budget.

todd on the other hand makes some really nice stuff. really really nice. the quality in his fabrication is incredible. i have not seen ptuning in person but i have seen dezod and turbonetics. i like the turbotoyotas stuff way better. it comes with a tubed manifold and not a log style. log style is more likely to create backpreasure witch is bad for your motor and you loose power. turbo toyotas offers quality parts at a good price. Customer service is good too. Todd has helped me out plenty with my build. He is a good guy and he is really into what he does. most of his kits make 270 whp +++ at 8 psi id say turbo toyotas all the way................

CarbonXe

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So basically if you're not from Cali, the Descendant kit is pretty much a bad option, considering the Dezod and PTuning kits offer so much more.

mospeedtc

Update on Ptuning, they have a "tuner" kit with no fueling but if you need the injectors may wanna check with then for that. Just though I put that out there.... since it seems you have a AEM FIC already.