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07-28-2008, 11:32 AM

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So if I read this right the fi/c will not have the ability to run the turbo cames ? I would like to get cams but still use engine managment that keeps the ob2 port (for emissions)

dezod now has cams - look at their stage2 NA cams for your s/c

07-28-2008, 02:11 PM

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So if I read this right the fi/c will not have the ability to run the turbo cames ? I would like to get cams but still use engine managment that keeps the ob2 port (for emissions)

Well, simply put, you CAN tune the cams with the FIC, but it will not be the optimal deal. You will not be able to get the most out of the cams. Simple as that.

07-28-2008, 05:23 PM

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I gotta change my sig, I'm turbo now. How do you think the idle would be with the fi/c?

07-28-2008, 05:38 PM

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I gotta change my sig, I'm turbo now. How do you think the idle would be with the fi/c?

All of the tCs I have tuned with 440cc, 550cc and 700cc have idled fine.

07-28-2008, 05:49 PM

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idle shouldnt be an issue - you just tune it to whatever its idling at and keep at that level - why whould you figure there was idle issues?

07-28-2008, 05:55 PM

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idle shouldnt be an issue - you just tune it to whatever its idling at and keep at that level - why whould you figure there was idle issues?

I think he's referring to lope at idle. It will have some for sure, but it will it be uncontrollable, I doubt it. The Stage 3 is a different story.

07-29-2008, 04:28 PM

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Yep, time for some competition.... Turbochargers.com has the cams for $675.

07-29-2008, 10:15 PM

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Just FYI for you guys wondering about numbers. From my post over on this thread. Just read and accept it.

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UPDATE!!!!
Got some numbers.

A buddy of mine called BC today and got a hold of them and got some numbers. Here is what they said:

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Official response when I called them (got someone on the phone in under 30s)...

15-18hp on Stage 2 N/A, 25-30hp on Stage 3 N/A, Stage 2 F/I varies on the setup so they can't provide any accurate information (just guesstimates). Dyno sheets should be on the site by the end of August.

Sound clips and/or video clips will not be provided by Brian Crower, they state to just watch YouTube for when a customer installs it to hear how it sounds.

I called immediately after he posted that information to get information on the stroker kit. They said even though they have the stroker kit advertised on the website, it is still in developement. He said he would shoot me an email with specs and numbers when they are finished with the product though. So we'll see what's up with that hopefully in a couple months.

07-29-2008, 10:33 PM

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I want to hear it too!

But I would rather hear a stroked tC. BC's stroker kit for the tC is out as well! I want! Only $3333.25!

what site to you find stoker kit for tc

http://www.briancrower.com/makes/toyota/2azfe.shtml

theres the link, but according to the last post above the kit is still in development, but at least that gives you an idea!

07-29-2008, 11:55 PM

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woot woot

07-30-2008, 01:14 PM

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I'm surprised. I expected alot more people to be on top of this. Even in the power and drive train area, there isn't much activity on these.

I personally can't wait to see the dyno sheets at the end of next month when they come out. I want to see the power curve more than I want to see anything else right now.

Seeing the curve helps the F/I crowd alot too on making a decision. I just hope it's nice and smooth and not dyno queen spikes and garbage like that.

07-30-2008, 02:51 PM

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A good majority of the people on the forums only think in peak hp marks. They do not understand the value of more hp lower in the band

07-30-2008, 03:01 PM

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The bad thing about the stroker kit is that our stroke is so long already. It would be better if we could have a larger bore instead. If I were to get the stroker kit, I'd stick with a low rev limiter.

07-30-2008, 03:47 PM

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I want to hear it too!

But I would rather hear a stroked tC. BC's stroker kit for the tC is out as well! I want! Only $3333.25!

what site to you find stoker kit for tc

http://www.briancrower.com/makes/toyota/2azfe.shtml

theres the link, but according to the last post above the kit is still in development, but at least that gives you an idea!

According to Brian Crower's site the kit is available, however I talked to Titan who has the kit listed on their site, and was told that it's roughly 12-weeks out. I forget if this is just to assemble the kit or if it's that it's still in development stages. Titan is taking orders on them.

Makes me wish I still had my 2AZ to build, seeing as this cuts the prices of engine builds drastically..

07-30-2008, 04:23 PM

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How does this cut the price of an engine build??

It's more expensive- this kit doesn't come with a block that's already been machined. You still need to take your block and the pistons to a machine shop.

$3,333 for pistons, rods, and crank is expensive! It's about $1,000 more than Honda B-series stroker kits.

07-30-2008, 04:36 PM

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but a honda block is smaller than our block, so machining and material is obviously going to be more and the fact that it is brand new. Besides, it's the recommended price tag, not what it really costs.

07-30-2008, 04:38 PM

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Well Dezod sells the cams at MSRP - so it doesn't matter if you buy from Dezod or Brian Crower - atleast at this moment.

Materials making it cost $1,000 more? lol.

07-30-2008, 07:15 PM

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A good majority of the people on the forums only think in peak hp marks. They do not understand the value of more hp lower in the band

I've noticed that. There's a reason I've staye away from SL as long as I have. As soon as I can see proven numbers, video, what have you, I'll disappear from this site. I'm here strictly for the BC cams and stroker kit. No offense to those of you that actually have something to contribute to this site, I just find the vast amount of gp bs is completely unacceptable.

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Now, lets try this again. Maybe I'm the one taking what you said the wrong way.

Let's review shall we? The website.
What it says on the website.

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The BC stroker kit for the Scion/Toyota 2AZFE engine incorporates a 106mm stroke, steel billet crankshaft. Depending on bore size that you decide, the BC kit will take you up to a 2.7L with a safe 90mm bore (Darton sleeved block). The 2AZFE kit utilizes premium steel billet connecting rods. As usual, each BC kit features custom CP or JE pistons, wrist pins, full ring pack and buttons.

Now this is not just a standard "stroker kit". If I'm mistaken on what you're saying, please clear things up with me.

07-30-2008, 07:46 PM

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Larger bore meaning more than just 1mm.

Ideally we should have a square design for higher rev and boost - like an SR20DET motor.

Our bore x stroke stock is: 88.5mm x 96mm

The stroker kit is increasing the stroke to 106mm which will get
2606cc with 88.5mm pistons (stock size)
2636cc with 89mm pistons (stock overbore)
2696cc with 90mm pistons (need to resleeve block)

90mm vs 106mm is still a large stroke - not ideal for high revs.

To get 2.7L you increase the bore by 1mm but increase stroke by 10mm.

07-30-2008, 08:15 PM

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Well Dezod sells the cams at MSRP - so it doesn't matter if you buy from Dezod or Brian Crower - atleast at this moment.

Materials making it cost $1,000 more? lol.

Well I spoke to MGT, and the price is $675 now.....so

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