HyPn0TiC

Todd, lets do it with my car.

koontz946

one gets the intake one gets the exhaust?

sorry i couldnt resist

rhythmnsmoke

BUMP.....


So, I was listening to the ScionUnderground Podcast Episode 2 the other day. SU interviewed Chris Rado and talked a lot about their Time Attack tC "Black Betty".

Just find it interesting that during the interview, Rado say's and I QUOTE:

"This tC believe or not has a bone stock transmission with just a factory TRD Limited slip differential. The tranny is stock. The engine has 3 parts, Pistons, Rods and Headstuds, and that's it. There is no valves, no valve springs, no cams no nothing. We use all the stock Scion stuff. Ok we can run over 39 lbs of boost through the factory plastic intake manifold. We made over 620 ftlbs of torque to the front wheels through the stock intake manifold, through the stock transmission. With stock sleeves, so these cars are pretty wild."

malloynx

very intresting...


has the 2az-fe really been pushed to the limits yet and documented?

Complication

I find that VERY hard to believe....

Ace83

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taking about ems, how is motec different from aem and hydra?? is it better? i never heard any other tcs running motec, but it might be that motec didnt make it for tc so all the other functions for street/daily use will be gone?

koontz946

i think they misquoted him. he probably said they CANT put more than 39 lbs through the stock mani. though 39 still seems insanely high

rhythmnsmoke

I was listening to the Podcast as I was making the post. It's not a Misquote, when it's Chris Rado talking himself. The post is WORD for WORD what he said. Call him a liar if you wish, but whether or not it's 39 lbs of boost or not, it was put on a dyno and made 600+whp, then later made 700+whp, on the same setup still, which would be factory intake manifold, factory tranny, factory head. Granted with his energy he gives, he could have gotten excited during his explanation of the car, but nonetheless every thing still holds true when it pumps out the power it has.

youngflyer

has anyone seen his drag tc, that beast is making 1200 hp.

airswipes

the question is.. how long can you keep it at that without something going wrong? you'd need lots of money to further keep the maintenance on it..

brett561tc

could you please post a link to this podcast. im having a very hard time seeing how rados car, with a t3 frame turbo, stock head, stock intake manifold, stock throttle body, and so on is making almost the same kind of power as arthur armenderez, and kenny trans cars. wich are both running large frame t4's, fully built heads, cams, intake mani's, larger throttle bodies, and so on...

rhythmnsmoke

Yeah, but I think the topic was geared more towards 2az-fe setups on tC's pushing close to 500 or above. The 1200hp drag tC, I forget what motor, but it's not the 2az.


Who knows how many times they have blown it up. I only know of one time they blew it, which was like last year or year before last, and I have no idea what the setup was then (wish I knew).

rhythmnsmoke

I go through ITunes. I have subscribed to the show, so I can get it downloaded to my Ipod touch. But here is the website link to their Podcast

http://scionunderground.libsyn.com/i...post_id=349898

It's Episode 2. I believe Episode 3 is available now, but you can still get the previous episodes.

rhythmnsmoke

From another thread:

rhythmnsmoke

Here, this is even BETTER, a Youtube video of him talking about stock parts on the car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsooW...post_id=350527

mikescion

i have also messaged rado online before about his setup and he told me just like travis's post Pistons,rods,and head studs. told me not to rev past 7100rpms because theres no use for it on stock stuff. also i 600wtq and 600whp with stock intake and TB. But i thought i read something about him upgraded everything and doing away with DBW and doing over 700whp

Joe_Dezod

I've spoken with Christ a lot in person. He swears by the stock intake manifold. Our manifolds are reinforced glass/plastic manifolds. They're actually pretty stout for a factory unit. They also don't heat up as quickly. He went aftermarket for airflow reasons.

At the local race event here he cooked the engine about 15 minutes after we spoke then had to pit again. Blew the rods. He runs a scramble boost setup. He was racing all night with one of his two fuel pumpes not working properly and had no idea. When he went into scramble, the car went lean and poof! It was pretty fun though, he signed one of the pistons and gave it to my buddy.

Our sponsored racer Dan Gardner finished 14th out of 50 in the Koni Challenge this past weekend. This was the first national event the car has competed in and the team is already making great progess.

Nick06tC

I guess the SIMPLE answer is, why dont you have 500WHP?

Your answer is probably the same as the rest of us!!!

Nick06tC

And I believe he is on stock intake manifold, Kenny Tran did over 700WHP on it!!

Joe_Dezod

Kenny Tran had a custom tubular manifold. He maxed out the OEM fuel rail as well, which turns out to not like 1000cc injectors too well.