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Old 04-09-2008, 06:46 AM
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sure will, he might lag fro about 5k but he might be revving more 2-3K more too
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8k is in his future.

so is the curse!
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Originally Posted by Mightygnu
8k is in his future.

so is the curse!
yeah, but i'm hoping for the best. I'm so </3 after what Paul went through...makes me cry.
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Screw the curse this is getting done and done right! but just remember good things take time... Im not just gonna slap this all together asap I want to make sure everything is perfect before I get ahead of myself just to see the #'s (track or otherwise)
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Good luck on your project Reaper. Your in good hands there. Let us know if we can help in any way.


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go Reaper!...good luck with this...and for all the haters about the "its only a 2.4L" thing...look at the rsx/si crew that has a k20 block running high hp/trq numbers as well.....

much respect coming from a 8cyl to a 4cyl...have fun saving money on gas....youll save enough to help on your build..lol j/k
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Originally Posted by sciontcnj
go Reaper!...good luck with this...and for all the haters about the "its only a 2.4L" thing...look at the rsx/si crew that has a k20 block running high hp/trq numbers as well.....

much respect coming from a 8cyl to a 4cyl...have fun saving money on gas....youll save enough to help on your build..lol j/k
maybe you refer to me as hater.
i just tell the truth man.
sometimes truth hurtsz people.
i ain't seeing the 2.4 Liter spoolin the GT40.

i owe a V6 turbo with head work and all i could spool the GT37 and now the GT40.
but i have a lot more discplacement.

anyway good luck reaper.
Prove me wrong!
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if you aint seein the 2.4 L spoolin the GT40 your eyes must be closed.
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Originally Posted by davedavetC
if you aint seein the 2.4 L spoolin the GT40 your eyes must be closed.
Your's does spool the GT40 ?
send me video.
i'd be glad to take a look.
spool eficiently i doubth about it.
maybe spoolin it at 6000 RPM is not eficiently spoolin for me.an the rev cut out at 7000 RPM.
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http://www.nittotire.com/#index%2Emi...e%2Escion%5Ftc
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maybe you refer to me as hater.
i just tell the truth man.
sometimes truth hurtsz people.
i ain't seeing the 2.4 Liter spoolin the GT40.

i owe a V6 turbo with head work and all i could spool the GT37 and now the GT40.
but i have a lot more discplacement
Displacment doesn't mean as much as people thing it does. Its all about the velocity of the air moving out of the motor....

Plus I guess you dont pay much attention to all the 1.8 and 2.0L Honda motors running GT4294's and GT4202's.

+ you also have to take in consideration the manifold design....twin scroll turbo, when used with a twin scroll manifold has a tremendous effect when using a large sized turbo on a small displacement motor.

Regards-

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T04Z is a Gt40 ?since when ?
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Originally Posted by TurboToyotas
maybe you refer to me as hater.
i just tell the truth man.
sometimes truth hurtsz people.
i ain't seeing the 2.4 Liter spoolin the GT40.

i owe a V6 turbo with head work and all i could spool the GT37 and now the GT40.
but i have a lot more discplacement
Displacment doesn't mean as much as people thing it does. Its all about the velocity of the air moving out of the motor....

Plus I guess you dont pay much attention to all the 1.8 and 2.0L Honda motors running GT4294's and GT4202's.

+ you also have to take in consideration the manifold design....twin scroll turbo, when used with a twin scroll manifold has a tremendous effect when using a large sized turbo on a small displacement motor.

Regards-

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TOdd those honda's have lot's of revs,
and they have cams 4 sure.
we don't have that much rev on the motor.

i am not rryin bash on anyone in this thread, but eficiently spoolin the GT40 and still be Street .i have big doubths.
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Originally Posted by TCFROEZEL
T04Z is a Gt40 ?since when ?
lets look at the specs

t04z

Turbine
-Wheel: 74.2mm w/ 76 trim
-Divided Housing A/R: .70, .84, 1.00, 1.15, 1.32, 1.59
-Undivided Housing A/R: .61 and .70
-Maps

Compressor
-Wheel: 84.0mm exd./66.7mm ind w/ 63 trim
-Housing: 0.70 A/R
-Maps

gt40


Turbine
-Wheel: 77mm w/ 78trim
-Housing: .85, .95, 1.06, or 1.19 A/R
-Maps: Not Available

Compressor
-Wheel: 88mm w/ 52 trim
-Housing: .58 ar
-Maps

so whats the big diff here.... on i'm sorry its 1mm trim bigger. i really don't think that'll be a problem
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Originally Posted by TCFROEZEL
Still man tit's a 2.4 Liter.
with head work doesn't mean he can spool a GT40.

According to Garrett The GT40 series only needs 2.0-6.0* liters of displacement. It will take some time to reach full boost, but once there he will be happy with the results.

*http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...2_452232_5.htm

A turbo will spool at idle. Spool meaning spin.
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There is no such thing as a curse. Just dont go for a power maxed out dyno run 2 weeks after the build.

Take your time and slowly build up the boost.
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Originally Posted by nebster
Originally Posted by TCFROEZEL
T04Z is a Gt40 ?since when ?
lets look at the specs

t04z

Turbine
-Wheel: 74.2mm w/ 76 trim
-Divided Housing A/R: .70, .84, 1.00, 1.15, 1.32, 1.59
-Undivided Housing A/R: .61 and .70
-Maps

Compressor
-Wheel: 84.0mm exd./66.7mm ind w/ 63 trim
-Housing: 0.70 A/R
-Maps

gt40


Turbine
-Wheel: 77mm w/ 78trim
-Housing: .85, .95, 1.06, or 1.19 A/R
-Maps: Not Available

Compressor
-Wheel: 88mm w/ 52 trim
-Housing: .58 ar
-Maps

so whats the big diff here.... on i'm sorry its 1mm trim bigger. i really don't think that'll be a problem
WOW the way you are talking i gues you know a lot.
1 MM trim bigger has no difference.
Tsss.
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Originally Posted by NurSpec
Originally Posted by TCFROEZEL
Still man tit's a 2.4 Liter.
with head work doesn't mean he can spool a GT40.

According to Garrett The GT40 series only needs 2.0-6.0* liters of displacement. It will take some time to reach full boost, but once there he will be happy with the results.

*http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...2_452232_5.htm

A turbo will spool at idle. Spool meaning spin.
In this game i know form experience not always play by the rulez,
make your own rulez.
and for sure don't trust manufacturers specs.
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I have never done anything with turbos before, and I don't have any engineering experience with them. However, I do have a question:

Would it be possible to build a dual turbo motor? What are the drawbacks of having one smaller and one larger turbo, one for lower RPM use, and a second one for higher RPM use? Also, can you use the exhaust gasses from the smaller turbo (from two cylinders) and send it over to a second, larger turbo (using it and the other two cylinders)?

I don't know the dynamics of what is involved. It just seems to me that if this type of setup is in any way feasible, it might give you the boost and performance that you are looking for. But again, I am ignorant of the engineering aspects or the feasibility of this type of setup.

If I get flamed, I probably deserve it , but I had to ask...

Thank you for your patience...
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Old 04-10-2008, 05:43 AM
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cant wait to see the finished product!!
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