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Old 09-14-2009, 01:12 PM
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.82 gt3076r
Pump gas..
Greddy emanage ultimate
P-tuning's heart break dyno!

First chart is HP , TQ

Second chart is HP VS PSI


Im glad i have my turbo!

Also notice there boost falls off and they still make power!
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WOW JUstin! HOLY CRAP. Nice job man.


FYI, your damper came in.
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Originally Posted by tofast4u
just left the tbb 67 on it only ran 23.23 psi made 527.9 @6831 rpm about 480 tourqe q16 and 15 degrees of timing. At 19 psi we made 452.1@6363 I still have alot left in the tune!! Alot. Dynojet #s would be 565 or better. The Aem tru boost with a 11.4 spring maxed out. I forgot to put the 15psi spring in. So next week it's 30 psi.will post the sheets in a few and vids! Dezod manifold beeches. LOL. where u at Paul!!
Wow you did that on a Log manifold. Cool.
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Originally Posted by ElevationTC



.82 gt3076r
Pump gas..
Greddy emanage ultimate
P-tuning's heart break dyno!

First chart is HP , TQ

Second chart is HP VS PSI


Im glad i have my turbo!

Also notice there boost falls off and they still make power!


My main man elevation! lol.. I was going to ask you, have you got to the dyno and actually put some timing in the car yet, I bet you will make some reidiculous #'s for sure? or is this your dyno? if so.. awesome work.. the 3076 is a very nice turbo, and has good spool characteristics. It actually has one of the better compressor maps depending on which series.

BTW, this is with pump and meth injection correct?

Our graphs are decently similar, pretty neat, once I get my tuned and timing dialed in, it should make steam.

Get a hold of me,, I want you to run some q16, youll thank me daily.. I just got 2 55 gal, and 55 - 5 gall in, so Im stocked for now.. so let me know, I owe you 2
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tofast4u - can you answer my post earlier? Thanks!
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e85>q16
price
price
oh and price
and same result
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Not true Cory.. E85 is great if you don't have race gas readily available and if you're more conscious about the environment... Q16 can't be beat when it comes to power.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
The dyno sheets I've seen of an .82 do not fall at redline. I thought the car was fully setup. Did not realize you were still doing things. So, what was the dyno run for, just to show numbers? Was it just base runs? Just wondering why you didn't go ahead and take the time to tune it right and install whatever wg springs in, as you did the dyno runs.

I had the dyno scheduled with my friends for over 2 weeks, I planned on dynoing the 61/combo, but decided to put the TBB on.. that tune was near perfect.

I just dynoed it to get base #'s correct, and I had the appt. and figured I may as well throw it on @ 23 psi. I logged all the runs, I have got alot of it worked out now, It was pretty impressive how far off it was. I think at the same boost level it MAY pick up 10-18 HP, and carry it solid to redline. @ 30 psi I am hoping for well over 600 WHP.. I know I can do it. I usually set my goals and do pretty well with them.. Im determined.. lol

and its fun!!

thanks for all the comments guys.. this forum and supra forums I like because its not so drama filled with someone always trying to talk smack
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Originally Posted by B_Real45
Not true Cory.. E85 is great if you don't have race gas readily available and if you're more conscious about the environment... Q16 can't be beat when it comes to power.
price though q16 is how much 11-15 a gallon and e85 is all of 1.60 a gallon so e85 is better for a daily driver race gas is nice im actually going to start blending my own eth found a source for sugarcane eth and i will mix it with low led maybe who knows.

lets face it unless your very rich you cant run race gas every day on the street
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Originally Posted by B_Real45
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Thanks for clarifying on why you're with a .63.. but just for me - can you clarify if you're on a T4 exhaust housing or a T3. I don't know of any .58 AR T3 housings.. so going from a T4 .58 AR housing to a T3 .63 is a very different change. As you know, since you've been dealing with turbos a long time, you can't compare A/R from a T4 to a T3.. the radius from the turbo's centerline will be larger on a T4.
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Thanks for clarifying on why you're with a .63.. but just for me - can you clarify if you're on a T4 exhaust housing or a T3. I don't know of any .58 AR T3 housings.. so going from a T4 .58 AR housing to a T3 .63 is a very different change. As you know, since you've been dealing with turbos a long time, you can't compare A/R from a T4 to a T3.. the radius from the turbo's centerline will be larger on a T4.

You can get a .58 in a t3, I have access to anything turbo related..lol.. Mine was t3, and my .63 is t3. There is a difference in a t3 t4 sure, but for her setup, and daily driving and spool charecteristics, I dont really need one yet. I want to make some good power on this turbo and then be done..lol.. take it to the drag strip some, thats about it, Ive gotta get my supra finished, I have been killing myself on this car for 2 months just doing things to it..

BTW Dyno vid is coming
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Originally Posted by coryjames
price though q16 is how much 11-15 a gallon and e85 is all of 1.60 a gallon so e85 is better for a daily driver race gas is nice im actually going to start blending my own eth found a source for sugarcane eth and i will mix it with low led maybe who knows.

lets face it unless your very rich you cant run race gas every day on the street


Get ready for some super mega injectors though..

E85 is nice for the price, but for no more than we use it q16 is king, and makes tuning so easy
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Originally Posted by tofast4u
You can get a .58 in a t3, I have access to anything turbo related..lol.. Mine was t3, and my .63 is t3. There is a difference in a t3 t4 sure, but for her setup, and daily driving and spool charecteristics, I dont really need one yet. I want to make some good power on this turbo and then be done..lol.. take it to the drag strip some, thats about it, Ive gotta get my supra finished, I have been killing myself on this car for 2 months just doing things to it..

BTW Dyno vid is coming
Awesome - who makes the .58 A/R in a T3 footing? The closest thing I know of is the Bullseye .55 A/R.
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lol i got injectors i need bigger ones lol im thinking 1400s or 1200s i will see once my new fuel system goes in i maxed out 900cc injectors and the stock pump i hate having one of the only fast xb2s with no suport i haate it lol
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Originally Posted by B_Real45
Awesome - who makes the .58 A/R in a T3 footing? The closest thing I know of is the Bullseye .55 A/R.

My distributor Justin at comp got it for me about 8 months ago.. I will probably sale that turbo soon, the exhaust housing is jet hot sterling coated as well, polished housing. the turbo comes on very strong by 3600
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Originally Posted by coryjames
lol i got injectors i need bigger ones lol im thinking 1400s or 1200s i will see once my new fuel system goes in i maxed out 900cc injectors and the stock pump i hate having one of the only fast xb2s with no suport i haate it lol

you will def need large injectors my man..lol.. 900cc's on a return system is good for 140-150 per hole ON GASOLINE
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Originally Posted by tofast4u
My distributor Justin at comp got it for me about 8 months ago.. I will probably sale that turbo soon, the exhaust housing is jet hot sterling coated as well, polished housing. the turbo comes on very strong by 3600
Good ol Justin!
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Awesome Justin! I'm just really glad to see that other than the turbo that our kit is capable of getting you where you needed!

Proof that these parts CAN AND DO support over 500HP.
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Originally Posted by DezodDon
Awesome Justin! I'm just really glad to see that other than the turbo that our kit is capable of getting you where you needed!

Proof that these parts CAN AND DO support over 500HP.

yes, the kit works well, EGT's have NEVER gotten over 1300 F . Proof even at those levels, theres not enough restriction, even with the 2 1/2" Downpipe.. good stuff, I also run a very cold plug, same I run in my drag supra NGK vpower -9-

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Originally Posted by tofast4u
yes, the kit works well, EGT's have NEVER gotten over 1300 F . Proof even at those levels, theres not enough restriction, even with the 2 1/2" Downpipe.. good stuff
That's interesting - where do you have your EGT sensor mounted? Mine is in the manifold about 1.5" away from port #3 - and I see 1400*F while cruising at 85mph.. 14.2-14.7 AFR, 7-range iridiums gapped .030", 93 octane.
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Originally Posted by tofast4u
yes, the kit works well, EGT's have NEVER gotten over 1300 F . Proof even at those levels, theres not enough restriction, even with the 2 1/2" Downpipe.. good stuff

Standalone AEM FTW!
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