sounds good - where can i get it - im in NJ

 

Just so you guys/gals know running this setup is actually unnessicary UNLESS you are tuning for extream performance. The purpose of a A/H/M injection system is to cool the cylinder temp...agreed?
Okay this is where everthing gets fun. The reason people use this system is because they are running very large shot of Nitrous (300+) on a 11:1+ compression motor or high boost 2bar+ or a mix of the two. The reason for this is because when you add air/fuel to the cylinder, pressure and heat go up (duh), but what most people don't know is that your piston can only withstand 1380 degrees farenhight (at 1400 degrees aluminum -ie your piston- vaporizes). Top fuel drag cars BARELY run these systems. For example - a 580ci, 16:1, blown, sprayed top fuel car would run a very small system because, properly tuned, the internal cylinder temp only gets to around 1200 degrees. I'm in no way trying to say that these are not useful systems, but a good one can be very expensive and for most people this is an unneeded addition. However if it's what you want have fun!

 

its NOT for tuning for extremes, its for tuning for more power safely...same thing as running race gas, now there are some cars that make no additional power on race gas or meth than pump, for instance stock charged cobras have this so meth injection is not a wise upgrade as it will yield less than 15whp...but for most cars you can increase timing, lean afrs, up boost and at the same time get better fuel mileage and make more power safely...i wasn't a believer till i started using it and then i was sold

 

It's for Safety, Douswlo.

You can safely advance timing and push higher boost pressure with meth injection. Like what UltimateCC says - it's like running race gas.

 

race gas smells better.

 

AMEN to that, if a girl would where it as cologne I would be in heaven

 

ok.. so answer me this? I was watching the first episode of Pipes a couple of weeks ago and the guys running the 350Z installed an exhaust, pop charger, crank pulley and snow performance's boost cooler. according to the race they shaved a sec off their 1/8" mile time.. by what you guys are saying they should have seen no gains w/ the boost cooler... so why did they spend the money on it? 10.3:1 compression isn't high and they were running no boost (obviously). did they really get that much improvement from exh/intake?
I just put on my snow perf. stage 2 and will be hitting the track next weekend.. will be interesting to see how it goes.


just in case you wanted to see the 350Z segment from pipes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEb5fRU-PDM

 

Actually from Stock STi's and SRT-4 with tuning and boost cooler they have gotten around 15whp more.

 

I am also looking at adding a meth/water injection to my S/C... I just had few question or more then less just wanted some of your opinions!

What is going to be the main difference's between Snow performance Stage 1 and Stage 2 i understand one goes off the maf but is this going to be a big deal and how does this change the way you spray it! and worth the money being that stage 1 is only 249.99!!! PLEASE FILL ME IN i want the set up but need to see at what cost i can get it to see about getting a emangment as well to tune it. Or how does rippmods compare to snow performance!

thanks

 

I would like to know this too !

 

they had a terrible driver first time around...theres no way without tuning unless the ecu has self learning capabilities that the power will increase...

 

stage1 is a boost pressure switch, stage2 has a couple different options of controlling injection but it does it PROGRESSIVELY...smoother tune as your getting the right amount of meth when you need it...RIPP mods I believe uses a snow kit and restickers it...I could be wrong...

 

ha ha... I see Good info! I am looking at going with the snow performance! now is the stage 2 worth the extra 150$ or save that money for the unichip or Emangment! and get a good tune! let me get this right with stage one i would be purging it in when i want with stage 2 it will spray it self at the timing it believes is best with the right tune! hmm... hard Choice but correct me if I am wrong!

 

stage1 is like nitrous, pumps either on or its not, full pressure
stage2 has a start point and a max point, it brings pump on at a lower pressure at the start and ramps it up...

i have a description of all the stages at www.ultimate-cc.com

 

The stage 2 is the better kit IMO. You can have it come on as your turbo starts spooling and building boost and then sustain the pressure you want when you hit, say, 10psi.

 

ok i Get it! At first i was thinking I would just use it at the track and when ever needed on the streets. so in that case a stage 1 would be more my area! but the stage 2 would be set up for everyday cooling and also have the advantage on a "ramp" when spraying from min-max boost for best gains!

So i would just need to figure out how i want to use it and how often! and how deep my pockets are!

anyone on here that have a stage 1 and anyone with a stage 2 just wondering how it performing!

 

stage1 are pretty good on any application that spools real fast but the stage2 will always make for a smoother tuned car...

 

All depends if you are tuned with it - if u dont have a FMIC and you have a turbo you are going to want the methanol for every day use. Methanol should be tuned to start spraying 1/2 way though your boost level and max out on whatever your set at. If you are only running 6lbs boost you want to start at 4lbs. 9lbs start at 4 or 5lbs boost spray.

 

I am at 7 psi now and about to change it to the 9.5 psi pulley. I know i want the water/meth added but then i need to worry about a tuning unit! and the cost! what are some good ones that don't cost a lot?!?!

 

"You gotta pay to Play" :D or you can try to do your own DIY Meth/Water Injection System. I postedsome time ago how to make your own.