all4degame

Will do sir! I'll post back here in the afternoon.

all4degame

Got a refund from Todd for my spipe, thanks buddy.

On to the car, the sucker still wont start. I check the vac line from the valve cover to the intake manifold and that is connected. I checked all the vac lines and they all are connected. No cracks in the intake manifold. Checked all my ic piping, its all connected. Tried switching to a different base map. Tried just to start it with stock ECU, no luck as well. I decided to take out my spark plugs to find them with quite a bit of carbon buildup and some fuel on them. I tried to clean them up and throw them back on. No luck once again starting. ECU was reset before all of this went on.


Pic of my plugs, they had quite a bit of carbon buildup. I looked down through the spark plug hole and there was quite a bit of carbon buildup as well. I think the fuel on my plugs was the result of me cranking the car so many times.

I really need a break from this car. I think i'm going to take a rest from scionlife and get my mind off of things.

thendawg

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Well lets go back to basics here - things needed to start the car - fuel, spark, air. Have you checked to make sure throttle body si opening/closing properly when ign is on? Have you pulled a coil pack and plug and tested for spark? Checked connectiosn to maf sensor? used dmm to verify tps and maf voltages at the ecu? It seems your def getting fuel. Also check cam pos sensor connector and crank pos sensor - these are key for the electronic ign timing to work.

all4degame

Out of all of those, I've only checked the MAF, and the connection is good. What I don't get is why all of this happened out of the blue. Just sitting at a restaurant, the car will not stay started and idle. Once I got it started and reved it a few times it would stay started. That evening I get home and I park in the garage, come back out in the morning to have the same problem I had the previous day. I manage to get the car out of the garage by feeding it gas, then it dies in my driveway. The car wont start again. I wait a few seconds and the car starts again and runs normally. I park it in the garage again. I come out yesterday and tried to start it. It starts but then dies in the garage. I never got it to start again.

java09

maf sensor damaged/defective..

find someone with the year type maf and swap it out and see if his car will have your issues and if it resolves yours.

im trying to find the easiest thing possible..

all4degame

Brandon, I just realized that your tc has a different maf sensor than mine does. We have different years. Do you think your tune could have damage the maf over time because we have different ones?

crush02342002

iTrader: (2)

maybe try throwing your stock spark plugs in and crank it...idk what els to say cause im lost on the eblue.

Ace83

iTrader: (6)

unplug your maf sensor and try to start it.. and your battery is good? and you checked you EFI fuse? dumb question but your injectors are plugged? did you have a loud bang prior to the car not starting?

coryjames

try to start it without the maf it will start up then die about 2-3 seconds later see if thats it post a vid of you trying to start it so i can see whats going on a little more

Ace83

iTrader: (6)

^^ it will not die assuming no other problem exist.. it will start and run pig rich.. it throws the car to safe mode lol

coryjames

thats diff then the gen 2 it kills the car after 2-3 seconds

Ace83

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i think he has a gen 1.. 06. but yeah check your EFI fuse too

all4degame

EFI is good. I'll check my battery with a voltmeter later. Injectors are plugged in. The loud bang happened after my car hadn't started... This problem started up on tuesday with no prior "bang" or warning. It eventually would not start. I'll try unplugging the maf, and also finding a scanner from someone local. I want to see if i'm throwing any codes. Yes, I have a first gen. I'm completely baffled, something mechanical is wrong, because it wont start up on factory ecu. But yeah, i'm going to try to find a scanner and see what is wrong.

Ace83

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yeah sounds like, hardware/mechanical.. worst case might be a cracked intake manifold from underneath.. a small vacuum leak would still make the car start

java09

seeing that we have different maps i am unsure if my tune is good for your car..

the maf is simple voltage tuning though.

all4degame

I got underneath the car and check for cracks with a flashlight. I couldn't find anything which is good. Can I rent a scanner from anybody local? autozone? I know you can get free scan when you're there, but I can't get my car to start to get it there.

Ace83

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fuel pump or injector failure?

crush02342002

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I have scangauge ...ill send it out to ya sat if you want it...just return when done..prolly overnight it to ya just dont have the molla til sat.

all4degame

I might take you up on that offer chris. I'll let you know on monday or tuesday. I actually might just end up buying one, it would be handy to have around.

I'm not thinking its fuel pump or injector failure. My plugs had alot of unburnt gas on them when I tried to clean them. I need to find a scan tool so it would minimize the guess work out of it.

Ace83

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doesnt start too with the maf unplugged? man you got all of us thinking lol