Alternative way to boost your tC
01-02-2006, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by optional
Originally Posted by English
Obviously there's a reason why they don't use this item on race cars or as a factory option on production vehicles...
This item is for people who think putting a "Type R" sticker on their car makes it cool
This item is for people who think putting a "Type R" sticker on their car makes it cool
01-02-2006, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by English
Have you ever seen one in NHRA racing????? Formula 1 perhaps? Champ? Nascar? WRC?
NO you have NOT
Of course they have it on their website since they SELL THEM
WOW a video showing a car with their "supercharger" doing 15.15 in the 1/4mile WOW
You are probably one of the morons who bought this
I'll make you one for $1500 aaaaaaaaahahaha
NO you have NOT
Of course they have it on their website since they SELL THEM
WOW a video showing a car with their "supercharger" doing 15.15 in the 1/4mile WOW
You are probably one of the morons who bought this
I'll make you one for $1500 aaaaaaaaahahaha
01-02-2006, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by zer0
Originally Posted by English
Have you ever seen one in NHRA racing????? Formula 1 perhaps? Champ? Nascar? WRC?
NO you have NOT
Of course they have it on their website since they SELL THEM
WOW a video showing a car with their "supercharger" doing 15.15 in the 1/4mile WOW
You are probably one of the morons who bought this
I'll make you one for $1500 aaaaaaaaahahaha
NO you have NOT
Of course they have it on their website since they SELL THEM
WOW a video showing a car with their "supercharger" doing 15.15 in the 1/4mile WOW
You are probably one of the morons who bought this
I'll make you one for $1500 aaaaaaaaahahaha
Yvan Eht Nioj
What does anything you just said have to do with your argument?
You are wrong
/your life
01-02-2006, 04:34 AM
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Wow guys, you are fighting over something that doesn't work.. Relax, even if it did your motor would be dead in a matter of days.
You get what you pay for, if you bought a complete f/i set up for $400 then its either blown all to hell, or made so cheaply you could break it in half before install. (just a crappy example)
This thread needs to be locked anyway, people are arguing over something ridiculous and its been discussed in tons of threads. All of these little "supercharge your motor for $100!!" has been discussed.
You get what you pay for, if you bought a complete f/i set up for $400 then its either blown all to hell, or made so cheaply you could break it in half before install. (just a crappy example)
This thread needs to be locked anyway, people are arguing over something ridiculous and its been discussed in tons of threads. All of these little "supercharge your motor for $100!!" has been discussed.
01-02-2006, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by English
I'm arguing that it doesn't work
Its pretty obviously something like this won't work, so if someone wants to believe it does let them.They use these for drag and stuff man, didn't know that?!?
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01-02-2006, 05:20 AM
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great find. nothing to argue from my side, i cant blabber on something i havent experienced and have full knowledge.
it is another alternative way and it wont be featured on turbo if its a ripoff.
it is another alternative way and it wont be featured on turbo if its a ripoff.
01-02-2006, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tikbhoy
great find. nothing to argue from my side, i cant blabber on something i havent experienced and have full knowledge.
it is another alternative way and it wont be featured on turbo if its a ripoff.
it is another alternative way and it wont be featured on turbo if its a ripoff.
01-02-2006, 05:58 AM
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^^ Exactly. A lot of these "tuner" sites and mags prey on the "tuners" who know enough to buy what is in the latest magazine article and bolt it on.
No offense to anyone who has contemplated this, just fair warning. I can tell you that to produce a noticeable effect on performance using an electric fan, you need a LOT of electrical energy. Power in = power out, it doesnt come free. The leaf blower example is a great one. They gained a small amount of hp with a leafblower. Typical leaf blowers can draw upwards of 10 amps at 120 V RMS. That is equivalent to 83 Amps from your cars electrical system. Not to mention having full time boost to your intake...
No offense to anyone who has contemplated this, just fair warning. I can tell you that to produce a noticeable effect on performance using an electric fan, you need a LOT of electrical energy. Power in = power out, it doesnt come free. The leaf blower example is a great one. They gained a small amount of hp with a leafblower. Typical leaf blowers can draw upwards of 10 amps at 120 V RMS. That is equivalent to 83 Amps from your cars electrical system. Not to mention having full time boost to your intake...
01-02-2006, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by killerxromances
Not true, a few car magizines have turbonator ad's, and we all know thats a ripoff.
i havent seen the article or ad itself on turbo, the issue date was 2004. but i do have to agree turbonator is a ripoff. im open minded and reading the article was pretty interesting.
Originally Posted by enginifeer
you need a LOT of electrical energy
Originally Posted by turbo magazine article
-Even a 2.0-liter engine making 15 psi at 8000 rpm required a 30-hp DC motor.
T: Can the batteries be charged from the alternator?
TK: Yes*, but see additional notes:
*If the alternator is stock, we suggest four or more standard batteries or Optima batteries, which will provide longer running times. These will be heavy, so you can eventually replace the alternator with a 200-plus-amp unit and switch to the smaller and lighter Odyssey batteries.
*If the alternator is upgraded, battery technology has come so far that a standard car battery can now be replaced with a 13-pound 3x6-inch battery that has more cranking amps than a big conventional battery. Hawker-ODYSSEY has the best units, in our opinion. The additional batteries and the ESC-400 weigh less than the typical complete turbo kit.
T: How long does recharging take?
TK: You can recharge the batteries in a few minutes of steady-state driving with a high-output alternator.
Cons
• Battery technology and weight are the classic detractors. However, battery technology has advanced significantly in recent years and the lightweight batteries that are available already will become lighter as the technology evolves.
• The system lacks an electronic boost control strategy. This will be available soon.
• Low-output alternators, which can't recharge the batteries quickly enough, can limit ESC running time.
• Wiring must be properly installed. This is key in the overall performance of the unit.
01-02-2006, 06:18 AM
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I would LOVE to see them run a 30 HP DC motor at the correct speed from a cars electrical system, even with a HUGE alternator. The issue you get into with the electric turbo is that you burn most of the power you add trying to supply the needed electrical energy. These things are downright funny.
01-02-2006, 08:57 AM
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Well a 30 HP DC motor would take a lot of power but I think the point of this system is to not take the energy from the motor's electrical system but from a separate battery bank. So when the system is being used (full throttle) the battery bank is independent of the cars alternator and regular battery but at part throttle the alternator would be charging the battery bank and of coarse the actual electric supercharger would be off. I think this is an interesting concept because it compresses the intake air but with robbing the actual engine of any power.
01-02-2006, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by English
I'm arguing that it doesn't work
50 hp, 2 sec. 0-60 and 1.5sec. 1/4.
This is where I get the energy from- two Optimas.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...Picture082.jpg
01-02-2006, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kirill
Originally Posted by English
I'm arguing that it doesn't work
50 hp, 2 sec. 0-60 and 1.5sec. 1/4.
This is where I get the energy from- two Optimas.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...Picture082.jpg
01-03-2006, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kirill
Originally Posted by English
I'm arguing that it doesn't work
50 hp, 2 sec. 0-60 and 1.5sec. 1/4.