Troys_tc

ok here is my story I am building a zpi kit for my car, personal reasons, mostly abecause they are cheap and easy to put together, plus they don't require fuel managment out of the box. Well in the beging of may I started a thread looking for a zpi downpipe and manifold because I had purchased everything else already but couldnn't find a source for those, so todd reply's to my thread and said quote "I have a bunch of ZPI manifolds and downpipes I will let go for "cheap" ", so by may 15th I had sent him the money order for the parts, and was stoked because he said he had them laying around, so I figured maybe a 2 or 3 week turn around....WRONG!!!! it has been now over 2 months and I recived a manifold about 2 weeks ago, still no down pipe. keep in mind that I have had over 10 people PM me trying to sell me there manifolds and downpipes since I have paid Todd. I have tried calling him, PIing him, emailing him, and it takes forever to get a responce. About a month ago he did say the downpipe he was going to send was not up to his standards and he had made me one and in was at the coaters, 2 weeks ago, when he sent the manifold, he said it would be done in a day or 2 and it would be on its way as soon as it is done, today he said that it might be done by next week. I have told him several times that I would take the tweaked one just to get my setup up and running, and no responce. I personally have a business degree for from cal state san bernadino, which is one of the best schools to goto for business, and this guy has horriable business practices. I was always told that a business only makes it if the owner can provide a better product, service or price then his competitors, so far thus dealing with Todd at TT I have not seen any of these observed. So for any potential customers of Todd I would keep my story in mind, because this is the trouble I have been going thru with parts he had "laying around". and would really concider going with someone else like I should have done. I will keep everyone posted to when I finally recive my down pipe that I could have already ordered and recived from a fellow scionlifer 5 times over by now with the time this has taken.

2_much_tc

jesus, another one?

java09

uh-ohhhhhhhhhhh

MeatRocket

wow maybe i should not get my turbo kit from them/

java09

Everyone knows when buying Todds kit that they are built to order. so this is a seperate case that shouldnt be considered when buying a kit you know is not on the shelf and once you order the build begins. although.. there are those who have waited for quite some time..

Troys_tc

this is true, but this was also presented to me like he had the items (downpipe and mainfold) in stock ready to ship after he recived payment. But it has just been mostly a lot of him trying to blow smoke up my a$$ since then with dates of shipment and never shipping

tCtCtC

java09

I fell you troy.. but bashing threads like this dont solve anything.. if anything people are still going to be ordering just the same..

blacktrdtc

iTrader: (1)

oh gosh not another one.. no he is not trying to scam anyone. he dont make it till you order it i think. its just like wendys or is that jack in the box? eeehh i dont even know.

crush02342002

iTrader: (2)

crap another one.
im normally nice and i really dont want to step on anyones toes, i also understand your situation, but if you dont like the wait ask for your money back and be done with it. sorry but thats about the best advice i can give you. if it means anything iv been waiting 11weeks today for my kit.

aen

i have a friend, he made turbos for dsm's for a long time...names doug, maybe you heard of him maybe you havn't. but he made perfect turbo kits. sad part is that he doesn't do it anymore, why?

he had a daytime job, and did hte turbo thing on the side...when he got home from work. now instead of going on the websites he frequents and seeing compliments or people understanding that that was only a side hobby, he saw people complaining and complaining; after a while he just said f'it and gave up the whole trade.

reminds me of todd, you do kknow that todd has a family and a different job right? he builds it because he feels like helping the community and getting out there. and just because his kits by far look the prettiest and perform jussssssst as well as dezod's perfect customer service company shipment out thing he gets alot of bussiness, so much in fact that it's hard for him to keep track of it. if he wanted to get out of the whole game he probably would have. and it wouldn't affect his lifestyle at all. only ours.

java09

^^only ours.. said well!

Troys_tc

ok just to set everyone straight, I understand that turbo toyotas is a company that custom fab's tubo kits, and from the images i have seen of there work, it looks awsome. but my beef that I am having is that I was told by todd that he had these laying around, so I would pretty much my situation to some buying a fuel managment setup from them, so again, I knew that it might take 2 or 3 weeks for him to send it and for me to recive it, nothing compaired to what I have been waiting. Also I want people to know that I am not trying to bash turbo toyota's, I am just expressing my feelings of frustation I am having with them in my situation, and maybe saving someone the trouble I have had. And I don't want a refund, I have been waiting over 2 months, I don't want to have to go thru waiting for the refund, and looking for a DP, and waiting on shippment, all I want is what is owed to me, thats only fair

paul_dezod

This sounds like a sob story. I proclaim neutrality, but if you want to play business, you had better intend to step your game up especially when your dealing with people's $$ and a lot of it. The guy you're holding $4K of his $$, who saved for a year to buy your part is not going to care if the moon fell out of the sky and destroyed your house once you got his $$. He is either going to want his $$ or the part. Simple as that.

Troys_tc

well said paul

aen

we all understand that you're fustrated, hell i would be too. but you do have to understand that ESPECIALLY because he does this as a side thing, there is wayyyyyy more room for error on his part, whether it is forgetting or a coater not being able to do what he wnated them to do.

but, i know for a fact that if you order something he doesn't have to make then he will get it to you super quick.

btw, it's not a "they" situation, it's todd and a couple of friends making something on the side, i don't even think he has any full time employees. cut him some slack.

crush02342002

iTrader: (2)

i was going to write something but i really dont feel like being a d!ck.

paul_dezod

If he is doing that well, then he should play full time TT. Every company starts small and somewhere. We all know that! Some of the best companies in the world started out in someone garage, or home, bedroom etc......BUT, it all boils down to what you do, how you do it, and how the customer walks away from you. THAT is what seperates the men from boys in business.

crush02342002

iTrader: (2)

hey paul you see my sig

aen

to be honest with you paul, i really really wish he would. i want a manifold too lol. but i think he's getting there.