Am I being scammed by turbo toyotas? Recived refund 7/17
#121
i watch m3s run awesome 14.5s all day here lol got to love a mile high sea level is for sissies lol
#122
Originally Posted by aen
Originally Posted by coryjames
if i dont see flow charts its worse then a log thats your theory??? have you seen zpi flow charts? orhter flow charts???
i'm going to head to full race very soon to talk to them about it.
one of my classmates has a friend that works there so we're going to head over there one weekend or soemthing.
Thanks aen for not taking any offense to what I was saying. My intentions were not trying to sling mud and you understood.
#123
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by aen
really? i didn't even know that, who else?
i live right next to ful race i want to check that out
i live right next to ful race i want to check that out
Maybe you should call Kenny Tran up and clue him in, so he can take them off their site.
http://yhst-43541471360993.stores.yahoo.net/scion.html
#124
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by aen
really? i didn't even know that, who else?
i live right next to ful race i want to check that out
i live right next to ful race i want to check that out
Maybe you should call Kenny Tran up and clue him in, so he can take them off their site.
http://yhst-43541471360993.stores.yahoo.net/scion.html
#125
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
^^You don't have to go that far. I only ask for that stuff when people make open ended claims and no data to back it up.
2 years ago, different turbo, not even 13.5 try again.
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
The dyno numbers I have seen are on par with every other kit despite having the TT mani and big turbo. The performance basically the same.
the advantages of having a equal length manifold have been proven time after time. show me one time attack, or drag race team that is running a log manifold. the only reason a race team would keep a log manifold ever is if the sanctioning body that they race under mandates that they be left stock. if you honestly think that having more back pressure on a turbo car is a good thing, then you might want to pick another hobby. [/quote]
We are talking about normal people with everyday cars. Not race teams. So, far, no proof has come this way. Even your own car (which you are one of the ones to sell his kit for the TT), ran a slower time in the 1/4 mile with the TT kit.
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Not meaning to offend any TT owner or anyone who sold their kit to get a TT one.
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Cause you can't say you sold it because it performed better, as there was no data and still no data
On race team setups as you have stated, sure I agree with you. But this kids in here aint doing **** but driving to the grocery store, or an occasional stop light run.
#126
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by aen
really? i didn't even know that, who else?
i live right next to ful race i want to check that out
i live right next to ful race i want to check that out
Maybe you should call Kenny Tran up and clue him in, so he can take them off their site.
http://yhst-43541471360993.stores.yahoo.net/scion.html
#128
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
2 years ago, different turbo, not even 13.5 try again.
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Even your own car (which you are one of the ones to sell his kit for the TT), ran a slower time in the 1/4 mile with the TT kit.
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Give me the numbers within this community that proves me wrong and I will give you the hand clap. Be it Dyno, 1/4 mile, Time Attack, whatever...be my guess to go digging for it.
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
On race team setups as you have stated, sure I agree with you. But this kids in here aint doing poop but driving to the grocery store, or an occasional stop light run.
#129
Originally Posted by aen
it's sunday, you guys need to relax. why so hostile? im about to lock this thread.
#131
Originally Posted by aen
okay, just making sure. you can discuss but it's already way off topic
#132
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Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by aen
okay, just making sure. you can discuss but it's already way off topic
#133
Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by aen
okay, just making sure. you can discuss but it's already way off topic
#134
don't tell nobody. btu im a spy. dun dun dun.
jk, i have rules and regulations i have to follow. fine by me, i'm helping a community i love.
but yea, i just want to make it easier to get real information rather than bickering all the time, seeing as this thread is already pretty much dead i figured i'd let you and travis go at it and hten lock it when it dies.
jk, i have rules and regulations i have to follow. fine by me, i'm helping a community i love.
but yea, i just want to make it easier to get real information rather than bickering all the time, seeing as this thread is already pretty much dead i figured i'd let you and travis go at it and hten lock it when it dies.
#136
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by aen
some people like the way it looks, and right now that's the only tubular manifold out.
as far as TT lacking data for support, travis is right on that but TT is ran only by todd and I dont think he sold a lot of kits and people post here for the numbers.. several of TT owners that got the kit didnt have a pro tune and some didnt get dynoed, many are still waiting so we'll see if more data will come soon.. few got decent numbers though, kydog dynoed more than 300 on the basik kit around 10 psi, brett, meaty got decent numbers too.. I just found a dyno place here in my area, ill try to get new numbers on mine
#138
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
2 years ago, different turbo, not even 13.5 try again.
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Even your own car (which you are one of the ones to sell his kit for the TT), ran a slower time in the 1/4 mile with the TT kit.
it ran a 12.6. same as before, only with a 2.0 60', rather than a 1.8, and bouncing off the rev-limiter at the 1000' mark rather than just before the trap.
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Give me the numbers within this community that proves me wrong and I will give you the hand clap. Be it Dyno, 1/4 mile, Time Attack, whatever...be my guess to go digging for it.
Funning thing is, none of that changed your 1/4 mile time....lol.
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
On race team setups as you have stated, sure I agree with you. But this kids in here aint doing poop but driving to the grocery store, or an occasional stop light run.
Secondly, what's your definition of a "real race car"? Provide examples excluding PTuning as they are a shop, and the comments are directed to individuals and what they are doing with TT's setup. Please educate me, and point me in the direction of a TT setup that is a "real race car" by our standards.
Not even phased by the civic comment, as I have an abundant wide range of videos on youtube and you only choose one aspect to talk about...nice shot, but kinda moot point.
#139
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by aen
okay, just making sure. you can discuss but it's already way off topic
Yeah, that's the pot calling the kettle black...
I have given up on all that is ScionLife to think that a thread is "On Topic"....lol.
#140