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Old 06-15-2009, 01:06 PM
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I did not like my tunes from either RIPP Mods or No Limit.
I am currently looking to go somewhere else.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:07 PM
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Also, through the research of 3 different engines on 3 different setups
Supercharger running a reflash
Stock ECU - Stock car
Turbo on Emanage

Cylinder 2 runs leaner than the others.. everyone should be aware

I believe its a design in the intake
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Originally Posted by 10sec05
I did not like my tunes from either RIPP Mods or No Limit.
I am currently looking to go somewhere else.
Everyone gets horrible tunes from them. They barely even tune their cars. They just hook it up, put a correction factor on the dyno to make the power that the custom wants, and quickly adjust the AFR to 11/14. They both have DynoDynamics dynos, but neither of them use it properly. They use the smoothing factor for AFR/Boost charts to make it 'look' like it's a lot smoother than it really is, and they use a rather high correction factor.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:18 PM
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My Greddy boost controller was tuned very well from both places.. No falling off or creep

If I had to go back to either I would go back to RIPP mods - Perry is a cool guy you just have to tell him what you want and be specific and go over everything before he thinks hes done with your car

No Limit I overall really didnt like my expierence.. but as far as the tune my car leaned out up top but my clutch went 2 days after so I dont have any long term information
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:19 PM
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I am trying to find somewhere new to go ATM
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:23 PM
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Which Greddy? Profec-B?
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Which Greddy? Profec-B?
Yes. Great boost controller once u get the hang of it.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:32 PM
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Well that's the unit doing it's job. It's a great boost controller and it's meant to hold boost/prevent creep/prevent spikes. Them setting it up doesn't really have anything to do with preventing creep and stuff.
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Well that's the unit doing it's job. It's a great boost controller and it's meant to hold boost/prevent creep/prevent spikes. Them setting it up doesn't really have anything to do with preventing creep and stuff.
Its a difficult boost controller to fully understand and to get it to work perfectly.
I give credit where credit is due.
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First and foremost no my engine is not blown.

I am new to the boosted world, my car is actually at the shop now being tuned, getting new aluminum IC piping, etc.

Each time I login to SL it seems like another person or 2 have blown their engine. What are the most common causes of blown engines in boosted applications. I am specifically speaking in terms of the stock motor, not those pushing 20 lbs of boost on their built motors but those auto & manual running 5, 8, 10, 11 psi, etc.

Are these people tuned, bought crappy kits, pushing the limits too much (what is too much), etc.

I'm just trying to understand so that I don't make the same mistake.

Just today I login and see that rozz-tC and all4degame motors seem to be no more.
100% all in the tune.

I have sadly seen Ebay turbo kits make great power (albeit not long at all due to the reliability of the components) but the reason they made good power was because they were tuned well.

Detonation will destroy even the most built of built engines.

Normal running compression pressures are generally half of what your static compression numbers are. (What you would read when doing a standard compression test.

So for all intents and purposes when the engine is running your compression numbers are around 120 psi. Add the amount of boost to that and your number rises but only slightly.

So we are at around 150 psi, running, maybe......

Detonation can cause pressure spikes in a cylinder of up to 10,000 psi.

That is enough to collapse ring lands on a piston, crack cylinder sleeves, blow head gaskets, smash rod bearings etc. It's like a jack hammer in your engine.

Number one killer of engines, bad tune.
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I agree with ya don on that but i have to say bad install comes in real effing close imho.
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Old 06-16-2009, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by crush02342002
I agree with ya don on that but i have to say bad install comes in real effing close imho.
Yeah, I agree as well

I'd say that's number 2
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Old 06-16-2009, 05:22 PM
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Bad install?

Meaning the whole tube of RTV on the oil pan? That's the only way I can see an install botched and even then your oil pressure would read low and you know something is amiss.
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I didn't read the entire thread. I quoted the first post and answered his question. My response was a general statement. I should have read the entire thread.
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Oh I know Don, I was just asking.
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Originally Posted by DezodDon
Originally Posted by crush02342002
I agree with ya don on that but i have to say bad install comes in real effing close imho.
Yeah, I agree as well

I'd say that's number 2
agreed
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Old 06-16-2009, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ecko04
Bad install?

Meaning the whole tube of RTV on the oil pan? That's the only way I can see an install botched and even then your oil pressure would read low and you know something is amiss.
forgeting to tighten down the fitting going to your wastegate like i said befor will make you over boost and well you know what happens then (trust me iv done it but i caught it in time i hit 17psi in a blink of an eye...ish comes quick..lol)

ther are lots of other examples im sure Don has seen them all just about...
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:47 AM
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who here has blown their motor after getting boosted?

i PMd chintastictc and he said that he put on his turbo on around 70k and blew it @ 112k
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^he blew it do to too many 3rd gear pulls, hitting the rev limiter too many time and also bc of his wot box.

then torwards the end he jus ripped it to much not caring
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eek. i dont push mine too much, and i make it a point to follow all the maintenance tips stated in this thread but im always scared of something going wrong.

anybody else on SL have/had a blown motor due to turbo?
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