ATTN: Need feedback from tCs with HydraEMS
03-01-2008 | 07:20 AM
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ATTN: Need feedback from tCs with HydraEMS
I am thinking about getting the HydraEMS for tuning my car. I want to get some feedback, especially about the idle.
Dezod states on their website about the AEM EMS that they have the only one that has 100% control over idle:
I want to know if the HydraEMS can do well with idle control and just in general how well it works with the stock ECU and if the stock ECU fights back at all like it does with piggybacks.
Any input from people that have the HydraEMS will be appreciated!
Dezod states on their website about the AEM EMS that they have the only one that has 100% control over idle:
Originally Posted by [url
http://www.dezod.com/pd_dezod_motorsports_standalone.cfm[/url]]We have come up with a way of allowing for 100% control over the idle despite the fact of the stock PCM having control over the Drive-By-Wire. This is utterly exclusive to the Dezod Motorsports unit, and no other manufacturer can boast this!
Any input from people that have the HydraEMS will be appreciated!
03-01-2008 | 04:22 PM
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thanks for the input, anyone else who is running the HydraEMS? The idle issue would be a big deal with me, plus one thing that is interesting is the whole autotune upgrade for the Hydra.
03-01-2008 | 06:45 PM
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The new version of the Hydra coming out (2.6) will have COMPLETE engine control including idle and DBW.
Right now my Hydra is linked with the stock ECU which handles the DBW. Ive never had an idle problem ever. You will never be able to notice that the Hydra isnt controlling it. At least I dont.
As far as I know no AEM unit can handle DBW by its self. Not sure if the Dezod unit uses another "box" to control I dont know. From what I hear AEM has no plan to make a EMS that will do DBW. To much of a risk.
I could be wrong though.
Right now my Hydra is linked with the stock ECU which handles the DBW. Ive never had an idle problem ever. You will never be able to notice that the Hydra isnt controlling it. At least I dont.
As far as I know no AEM unit can handle DBW by its self. Not sure if the Dezod unit uses another "box" to control I dont know. From what I hear AEM has no plan to make a EMS that will do DBW. To much of a risk.
I could be wrong though.
03-01-2008 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by yamaha16bw
The new version of the Hydra coming out (2.6) will have COMPLETE engine control including idle and DBW.
Right now my Hydra is linked with the stock ECU which handles the DBW. Ive never had an idle problem ever. You will never be able to notice that the Hydra isnt controlling it. At least I dont.
As far as I know no AEM unit can handle DBW by its self. Not sure if the Dezod unit uses another "box" to control I dont know. From what I hear AEM has no plan to make a EMS that will do DBW. To much of a risk.
I could be wrong though.
Right now my Hydra is linked with the stock ECU which handles the DBW. Ive never had an idle problem ever. You will never be able to notice that the Hydra isnt controlling it. At least I dont.
As far as I know no AEM unit can handle DBW by its self. Not sure if the Dezod unit uses another "box" to control I dont know. From what I hear AEM has no plan to make a EMS that will do DBW. To much of a risk.
I could be wrong though.
03-01-2008 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by equinox2355
Originally Posted by yamaha16bw
The new version of the Hydra coming out (2.6) will have COMPLETE engine control including idle and DBW.
Right now my Hydra is linked with the stock ECU which handles the DBW. Ive never had an idle problem ever. You will never be able to notice that the Hydra isnt controlling it. At least I dont.
As far as I know no AEM unit can handle DBW by its self. Not sure if the Dezod unit uses another "box" to control I dont know. From what I hear AEM has no plan to make a EMS that will do DBW. To much of a risk.
I could be wrong though.
Right now my Hydra is linked with the stock ECU which handles the DBW. Ive never had an idle problem ever. You will never be able to notice that the Hydra isnt controlling it. At least I dont.
As far as I know no AEM unit can handle DBW by its self. Not sure if the Dezod unit uses another "box" to control I dont know. From what I hear AEM has no plan to make a EMS that will do DBW. To much of a risk.
I could be wrong though.
I didnt tune my car but the autotune works just fine for me. PM Guru on these forums. He knows more about Hydra's anyone else ive met. He tuned my car.
03-02-2008 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mikescion
i talked to andrew at Hydra and he stated that if you purchase the 2.5 version b4 the 2.6 is out you can update it for free. but if you buy the hydra with 2.6 it'll be $185 more which is still cheap.
If anyone else has input or experiences with the HydraEMS feel free to let me know!
03-02-2008 | 03:23 AM
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^ x2. Hydra is tC specific and is proven with great support!
If you want a lil more info on the Hydra, here is a great start!
http://www.turbochargers.com/store/p...oducts_id=1367
If you want a lil more info on the Hydra, here is a great start!
http://www.turbochargers.com/store/p...oducts_id=1367
03-02-2008 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by yamaha16bw
Mike when you talked to Andrew did he say all we have to do is mail in our units for the upgrade?
I'll upgrade mine as well.
I'll upgrade mine as well.
03-03-2008 | 04:09 AM
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with the aem, and the hyda, you have to keep the factory ecu in the car. the standalone handles all the engine stuff, and the factory ecu handles everything else in the car. i personally, am going with the AEM. and i will be using a BBK throttle body 
03-03-2008 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by krazylowgsx
with the aem, and the hyda, you have to keep the factory ecu in the car. the standalone handles all the engine stuff, and the factory ecu handles everything else in the car. i personally, am going with the AEM. and i will be using a BBK throttle body
Originally Posted by yamaha16bw
The new version of the Hydra coming out (2.6) will have COMPLETE engine control including idle and DBW.
Right now my Hydra is linked with the stock ECU which handles the DBW. Ive never had an idle problem ever. You will never be able to notice that the Hydra isnt controlling it. At least I dont.
As far as I know no AEM unit can handle DBW by its self. Not sure if the Dezod unit uses another "box" to control I dont know. From what I hear AEM has no plan to make a EMS that will do DBW. To much of a risk.
I could be wrong though.
Right now my Hydra is linked with the stock ECU which handles the DBW. Ive never had an idle problem ever. You will never be able to notice that the Hydra isnt controlling it. At least I dont.
As far as I know no AEM unit can handle DBW by its self. Not sure if the Dezod unit uses another "box" to control I dont know. From what I hear AEM has no plan to make a EMS that will do DBW. To much of a risk.
I could be wrong though.
03-03-2008 | 05:28 AM
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i read that too, but i he said complete ENGINE control. i was told that the factory ecu is required for everything else... door locks, lights, windows, ect. mayne i was mis informed, but it pretty much makes since to me, since no one has a true pnp standalone yet. even the so called "standalones" require a harness! when i had my dsm... a plug and play was literly... pull the factory ecu, plug the new one in.. no adapter harness needed. if the new hydra will completly replace the stock ecu, and everything in the car still functions like its supposed to, thats bad ___... i may look into that.. and the dbw control with be a huge plus! any idea on a release date?