tcengel

Who is Dre and what kind of car? What kind of Gas and what work was done. The exhaust side is what matters at those higher horsepower levels and the 20G, TD05 or TD06 10CM or 8CM is just to small.

OuterHeaven

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/g...ando_12_52_2nd (you can actually see the mph in this one)

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/g..._orlando_12_49
(you can't see the MPH but they claim it at 115mph)

All with a 16g

tcengel

Ok, 112 MPH is good. I'd say that's about 330-340 WHP at best though. I'm sure it was on race gas too.

OuterHeaven

Oh ya 300 WHP is not really 110 MPH in our cars since we need to do 4 gear shifts to get to 110 MPH (1st all the way to 5th). Yes we have agressive gearing but with the high power it just makes 1st and 2nd worthless and only slow us down.

tcengel

Like I said, that car may have 330-340 WHP. A 400whp car traps at about 120mph. So, if it were a little slower due to the extra shift then say 118mph. That just backs up my claim.

DouBLeJ16

Awesome thread.

Does anyone know what type of turbo the jo-tech tC is using? 533whp.

(yes, this is with a built and stroked engine, but no one has made more WHP yet)

rhythmnsmoke

Wow, guess I'm not as Noob as you thought huh?...

PS...by the way, I WAS talking about Wheel hp.

tcengel

I'm not sure what you mean. I have yet to be proven wrong on any account. Is that you running 112mph? Great, you have 300 whp TC. That doesn't say much. Where's the dyno of this car?

DouBLeJ16

There's alot more factors you have to look at other then just the peak whp.

rhythmnsmoke

To much generalization going on. "400whp traps at 120mph". There is a little thing called power-to-weight ratio. If my tC weighs less than another tC, then wouldn't you think I would trap higher speeds?


I don't feel like arguing with ya bro. All I can tell you is that maybe you should do a little more research (with much more focus on ZPI's achieved 1/4 times, by doing a search on SL, and also taking a gander at these vids.. http://www.zeropointindustries.net/gallery/videos)

By the way, all 1/4 times were achieved with NO LSD, and the only engine work done on any of the cars, was the silver tC, at some point in time recieved turbo pistons in it. So, the whole built motor theory is a little stretched. Kenny's tunning ability with the E-manage is one of the best seen around SL. The E-manage and the Unichip is by far the most Widely Used management components for the tC. So, gather a little more information to back up your claims, cause I could throw information to you all day long.

rhythmnsmoke

+1

rhythmnsmoke

I'm sure there are people making that much, but it has not been documented yet.

tcengel

Well, your E/T can change quite a bit, but traps don't lie. Trap speeds are the only direct correlation of power. Dyno's lie and E/T's just mean your a good/bad driver.

DouBLeJ16

(a few posts later)

rhythmnsmoke

Fact is, as I said before, You don't need a crap load of money to make it to 400whp. Just a ZPI stage 1 or any other kit for that matter, and some nice boost. + a few internals of course, and a clutch.

You can still pull of low 12's/high 11's without an LSD.

tcengel

You can't show me traps, so show me a dyno. You are telling me you have so much power then you run 112 MPH traps. That says you are lying. If you want to continue lying to everyone then go ahead. So sad..... I'm checking out of this thread and I'll let you guys continue playing FAF.

rhythmnsmoke

Wow, we have a real winner on our hands with this one. Did you not follow any of the links people have gone through the trouble of providing for you? Don't you think it's a little disrespectful that they didn't tell you to "Go search for it", but instead link it to the thread, and yet you didn't even take the time to watch any of the vids...Geesh.

tcengel

Give me a link to the one of your dyno or 1/4 mile where you trap higher than 112. Come on, your car is that fast, but you never dyno'd it? Like I said before, you have a 330 whp car and good for you. I actually am impressed, but don't lie about the power.
I have yet to see a 400whp TC, especially without the items I mentioned, especially on pump gas. Until I see that, I have nothing to respond to.

rhythmnsmoke

Why am I even talking to you, you don't even own a tC, yet a Scion... I've provided the facts, I can't make you beileve them, so do with them as you wish.

Adios Muchacho's...

DouBLeJ16

There are plently of them on evolutionm.net, 20g's come stock on the EVO IX.

I know of 3 that make over 400whp on the stock turbo on pump gas.. They have a huge list of mods but it's definately the stock turbo on pump gas.

I would go find a link for you but I highly doubt you'd believe it because you just said dynos lie.