Schuller

They dont make the exedy 3 plate stage 5 clutch for 2500.00 for nothing. Install that and brake boost all day.

Schuller

Brake boost = more wear and tear bumper to bumper. I was told never drive around with one foot on the gas and one on the break. there are better ways of beating your competition.

rhythmnsmoke

I'm not ready to say Bye Bye to being Daily Driven yet though...



That might be accurate if people actually "drove around with one foot on the brake, and one on the gas"... . But you only Brake Boost during your race, which is what like 2 runs at most during a week/2 week span.

Joe_Dezod

If you need to brake boost to get the "jump" on the person maybe you shouldn't be trying to race them lol. I'm not trying to be rude, but if your car (anyone here) is as fast as you say it is, just floor it.

Ever hear the quote...
"You call it turbo lag, I call it foreplay"
or
"You call it turbo lag, I call it a head start"

Just have fun with your car and go easy on your brakes. Sure there is STRESS on the clutch, but the wear would be very minimal. I've brake boosted before, but I was just trying it out and never used it to race a car. Why you ask? Street racing is pretty stupid. The car's are fast to a point now within a few seconds of a roll start you're already doing over 100mph. Take it to a drag strip and shut the other person up on paper, or go road racing or auto cross and use the brakes for what they're for.

Again, I'm not picking on anyone here at all. My tip for brake boosting is to avoid it all together. Pick the right gear and time it right and it should get up and go. If you need to brake boost to minimize lag, pick a turbo that's spec'd out better for what you're doing.

Hey rythm... You say you blew your clutch out from the 40+ passes on the dragway... Why haven't you posted a single time slip as to what your car ran? Aren't you making all kinds of power now? What's it run?

rhythmnsmoke

Where have you been, I did post the times when from a slipping clutch... I didn't make a thread about it, cause it wasn't worth making one if the clutch was slipping. Also, it was on an 1/8th mile course. I will make a thread when I actually have a clutch that will hold, and it be on a 1/4 mile track and noth 1/8th.


About brake boosting. It's just MORE FUN, when you smash the gas and it takes off, instead of waiting to come out of vaccum. The 16G that I run spools faster than any of the T3/T4 setups on some of the other guys kits. The 16G is spec'ed nicely for the tC imo. Spooling faster than the rest, but still much more fun to brake boost it.

The track talk is all fun and dandy, I love track more than street. But when your cruising along on I24 here in TN, you can expect to be tried on the street. I don't back down... And there is nothing wrong with brake boosting to beat the other car imo. It's no different than being at the drag strip, and having a 2 Step computer to hold your boost down off the line, and after a certain gear, Full boost kicks in (all in making things efficient and improving your time and reducing wheel spin in the lower gears due to not running full boost at first). It's all about getting the MAX performance from your car, making it faster, and using all the available techniques to make your times improve. Brake Boosting is just the same, except it's done during Highway rolls.

engifineer

It is pretty simple how you can put more wear and tear without slipping. There is a lot more to a clutch than just the friction plate you know.

Again, it is not going to be monumental wear.. but it is wear nonetheless. I am not trying to tell anyone to do it or not.. racing a car is going to wear things out anyway.. that is expected. But what Joe said is right on.

DTRUONG_112

i guess ill just mash the pedal

unlimited77

Hey did you ever get your car tuned?
And do you know of any good tuning shops in the kc area?

Joe_Dezod

Thank you.

Oh and rythm... If you made 40 passes and posted up one 1/8th mile run in someone else's post, and didn't say anything beyond that, you need to lay off the rest of us lol. That's some CRAZY hypocritical shizzle right there.

But yeah, mash the pedal, and once the turbo spools up fly by your opponent. If you need to brake boost to pass him for the first second of the race, maybe you're car is not as fast as the other, and you should take that as motivation to get some more juice on that puppy.

rhythmnsmoke

If you can handle taking a loss, then by all means do so

rhythmnsmoke

A win is a win, dosen't matter if you Brake Boost or not. If the other guy Brake Boost and you don't, and he has the same turbo kit at the same Power Level as you, you will be scratching your head trying to figure out how you keep loosing...

And I'm not hypocritical, if I don't have my car at the moment... OH TRUST ME, when I get to the track (1/4th mile that is), I will be sure to have those vids! I think I've posted more vids than anyone on SL, so there is no way that I'm lacking on the vids. Not to mention, you made claims of times, but not ONE of them is recorded. Dave said he got it on his camera phone, maybe you should hit him up to see if he can get it uploaded for you. Otherwise all anyone can do is take your word for it.

BlkSandPrlTurbotC

It's cool and all if you want to poke fun and all, but Travis be realistic here man. Joe has always posted his vids from track events on SL.

www.putfile.com/madwheel - just incase you forgot the site again....

Joe_Dezod

I think he's talking about my 13.3 sec pass where it wasn't on tape. Even though over a thousand people saw it, and multiple credable members on this site saw it, I'm still the deceiving one

BlkSandPrlTurbotC

OH yeah THAT pass....

its ok...thats why we have the tracks here in AZ bro. We'll line 'em up sooner or later..

I've always wanted a piece of the Dezod tC

rhythmnsmoke

Of the 13.7's and 13.8's, but I was talking about the constant 13.3/13.4 runs. Where are those runs is what I was refering to.



But it's all gravy though. I'll be sure to record my passes, good or bad.

rhythmnsmoke

Yo Joe, even if you didn't have vids. You could at least have posted up the time slips. And what Clutch are you running? Upgraded flywheel too or no?

Streeter

I smoked a WRX who was brake boosting last weekend - and before you ask for video rhythmnsmoke, I had a guy taping it and my camera timed out before the race and he didn't know how to put it back on video mode.

Point is, though - brake boosting didn't help him at all.

(It was from a DIG no less.)

paul_dezod

ACT Street Clutch and OEM flywheel.

rhythmnsmoke

You can't brake boost from a Dig though Streeter. Unless you have a computer of somesort that will allow you build boost off the line, to which us tC boys don't have.

You should try it some times. Curise at 40mph and then just floor it. Then after that, run, use the brake to hold you at 40mph and have the gas pedal depressed to take you out of vac and hold it at about 0-1 PSI of pressure, then mash the gas. If you don't think there is a difference, then I'll meet you halfway and race you. You with no Brake Boosting, and Me With Brake Boosting.

rhythmnsmoke

Stage 3, Stage 4?