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04-28-2006, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ERIC-TC
Does this mean that if the S/C needs maintenance and is not under warranty(some mods are made) you have to buy the whole super charger kit again? Please tell me it's not true!
I'm sure that eventually Vortech will have some sort of refurbish or rebuild deal for this unit. They do it on all of thier other units and I can't see this one being any different. But we'll see what happens in the future.
04-28-2006, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jetlounge
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that is an excellent question. Just take out the mods part...say you have the S/C and NO other mods..it's now Year 2, and the seal or some other part fails. normal wear and tear..whatever. You bring it in and the service team should be able to order that single part (charge you for it) and replace.
But it sounds like from Highlander and Sparks, they were told that individual parts from the kit were not available...so would another $3000 investment be required?
That's the part that had me scratching my head for this whole thread. it makes no sense at all.
Or say it is still year 1 and in warranty and the same situation. Does the dealer have to order an entire kit and bill Toyota for it??
that is an excellent question. Just take out the mods part...say you have the S/C and NO other mods..it's now Year 2, and the seal or some other part fails. normal wear and tear..whatever. You bring it in and the service team should be able to order that single part (charge you for it) and replace.
But it sounds like from Highlander and Sparks, they were told that individual parts from the kit were not available...so would another $3000 investment be required?
That's the part that had me scratching my head for this whole thread. it makes no sense at all.
Or say it is still year 1 and in warranty and the same situation. Does the dealer have to order an entire kit and bill Toyota for it??
To be honest I don't think TRD expected these S/C's to have any kind of issues this early on in their life. So far I haven't seen any other issues with the S/C other than Highlander with the seals. Or atleast he's the only reported case thus far.
The way I see it is it not a problem until it's a problem. If your S/C is working fine and doesn't have any issues then I would worry about it. Just my opinion.
04-28-2006, 07:45 PM
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i mentioned switching the wheel a while ago. i love this idea. it would be really hard for techs to realize the difference, right? now, correct me, but this would put more air into the engine, but still be 7 psi? just more c.f.m. (i dont remember the name). but, josh said this would void the warranty. whats the difficulty rating on changing a comressor wheel? i know if its not perfect, your done. what kind of power would one realize with the g-trim?
and josh, is this what you meant by "other ways to increase boost"?
and josh, is this what you meant by "other ways to increase boost"?
04-28-2006, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jetlounge
^^
that is an excellent question. Just take out the mods part...say you have the S/C and NO other mods..it's now Year 2, and the seal or some other part fails. normal wear and tear..whatever. You bring it in and the service team should be able to order that single part (charge you for it) and replace.
But it sounds like from Highlander and Sparks, they were told that individual parts from the kit were not available...so would another $3000 investment be required?
That's the part that had me scratching my head for this whole thread. it makes no sense at all.
Or say it is still year 1 and in warranty and the same situation. Does the dealer have to order an entire kit and bill Toyota for it??
that is an excellent question. Just take out the mods part...say you have the S/C and NO other mods..it's now Year 2, and the seal or some other part fails. normal wear and tear..whatever. You bring it in and the service team should be able to order that single part (charge you for it) and replace.
But it sounds like from Highlander and Sparks, they were told that individual parts from the kit were not available...so would another $3000 investment be required?
That's the part that had me scratching my head for this whole thread. it makes no sense at all.
Or say it is still year 1 and in warranty and the same situation. Does the dealer have to order an entire kit and bill Toyota for it??
To be honest I don't think TRD expected these S/C's to have any kind of issues this early on in their life. So far I haven't seen any other issues with the S/C other than Highlander with the seals. Or atleast he's the only reported case thus far.
The way I see it is it not a problem until it's a problem. If your S/C is working fine and doesn't have any issues then I would worry about it. Just my opinion.
I agree, it shouldn't be a problem, and with warranty intact you are correct...that's the dealer's issue..
but in my Year 2 (out of warranty) question, if I am in the market for a replacement part. due to wear and tear..would I be able to pay for that part & labor, or do I have to purchase the entire kit?
From the feedback you got and Highlander it appears that this is the case. If it wasn't then TRD would have simply charged him for the replacement parts needed and told him to pay for service labor, and provided you with individual part #'s to put on your site.
i recall someone else on this site having an unrelated issue with the s/c and their entire kit was replaced. even though free to the consumer, that arrangement just doesn't make economical sense if all that was needed was a new blower. in any type of production with multiple parts you simply have to make additional components available. not doing so is a serious oversight. what if they took this concept further? I'd have to get a replacement car every time i blew a tire.
i know about manufacturing and production, but not on the aftermarket auto parts side. Is this typical...Do the likes of Greddy and others allow you to purchase individual components if they require replacemnet or do they make you purchase an entire kit again? I would imagine if i purchased a full exhaust system from (insert aftermarket company here) and my S-Pipe got all scraped up, salt damage and rusted after 3 years of neglect I could just get that part without having to purchase the full exhaust package. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong?
04-28-2006, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kcautotc
i mentioned switching the wheel a while ago. i love this idea. it would be really hard for techs to realize the difference, right? now, correct me, but this would put more air into the engine, but still be 7 psi? just more c.f.m. (i dont remember the name). but, josh said this would void the warranty. whats the difficulty rating on changing a comressor wheel? i know if its not perfect, your done. what kind of power would one realize with the g-trim?
and josh, is this what you meant by "other ways to increase boost"?
and josh, is this what you meant by "other ways to increase boost"?
I'm not saying that this is a good idea or that you should do it. It's just another way you could make more power without changing the pulley.
With all the stuff that's going on I wouldn't be surprised if they start checking every detail of the S/C when it comes to warranty work.
04-28-2006, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jetlounge
I agree, it shouldn't be a problem, and with warranty intact you are correct...that's the dealer's issue..
but in my Year 2 (out of warranty) question, if I am in the market for a replacement part. due to wear and tear..would I be able to pay for that part & labor, or do I have to purchase the entire kit?
From the feedback you got and Highlander it appears that this is the case. If it wasn't then TRD would have simply charged him for the replacement parts needed and told him to pay for service labor, and provided you with individual part #'s to put on your site.
i recall someone else on this site having an unrelated issue with the s/c and their entire kit was replaced. even though free to the consumer, that arrangement just doesn't make economical sense if all that was needed was a new blower. in any type of production with multiple parts you simply have to make additional components available. not doing so is a serious oversight. what if they took this concept further? I'd have to get a replacement car every time i blew a tire.
i know about manufacturing and production, but not on the aftermarket auto parts side. Is this typical...Do the likes of Greddy and others allow you to purchase individual components if they require replacemnet or do they make you purchase an entire kit again? I would imagine if i purchased a full exhaust system from (insert aftermarket company here) and my S-Pipe got all scraped up, salt damage and rusted after 3 years of neglect I could just get that part without having to purchase the full exhaust package. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong?
Just for reference the TRD S/C for the 3.4L Tacoma's can be sent to Magnusson for service and rebuilds. Which says to me that Vortech will be able to do the same sometime in the future. Right now they are telling me they can't do that. Why this is I have no idea. If I had to guess I'd say it's a "Red Tape" thing.
04-29-2006, 04:44 AM
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there wouldnt be any way to tell unless they took the sc apart and measured the compressor wheel...
on the other hand, im still curious to know if this g trim would still produce 7 psi, but more c.f.m.(still cant remember the correct abr.). and also, anyone know what difference in power this could make?
on the other hand, im still curious to know if this g trim would still produce 7 psi, but more c.f.m.(still cant remember the correct abr.). and also, anyone know what difference in power this could make?
04-29-2006, 03:45 PM
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Wow.... No stage upgrades!? Looks like GM has them the tC beat in the Performance department for the Colbalt SS. GM Performance has a line of pulleys, intakes and other upgrades for their SC. 
04-29-2006, 06:41 PM
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Wow.... No stage upgrades!? Looks like GM has them the tC beat in the Performance department for the Colbalt SS. GM Performance has a line of pulleys, intakes and other upgrades for their SC.
That idea w/ the stages w/ the colbalt is nice .... you keep the people comming back and spending a few grand a shot.... I would.
04-29-2006, 08:28 PM
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Iill have to call TRD on the BPV thing but most likely they'll say "If you change anything in the S/C kit then.......". You get the idea. It's all by the book 100% at TRD now that Toyota has put their hands into it. So while I seriously doubt that using a better BPV will do any sort of damage to anything in the car I can't say it's OK to do so.
04-29-2006, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Wyatt_Herb
Extensive performance parts support from Toyota would be outstanding. I would utilize it all the way.
Also, with SRT-4s, even mopar Stages void warranty. Well, thats what I was told by a dealer.
04-29-2006, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HighlanderMac
Originally Posted by Wyatt_Herb
Extensive performance parts support from Toyota would be outstanding. I would utilize it all the way.
Also, with SRT-4s, even mopar Stages void warranty. Well, thats what I was told by a dealer.
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