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Old 03-11-2007 | 10:21 PM
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I'm willing to bet money on it, that the never put the bolt that is supposed to connect the downpipe to the block . If he didn't that would be why the wastegate dump tube cracked. It happened to me when I first installed my kit. Turbonetics sent me a brand new one, no questions asked. Once I put the bolt where it belonged. I never had that problem again, pushing way more horsepower than the kit comes with. Everyone that had the cracking problem has been because of that bolt not being installed when the kit was put on the car.
Old 03-11-2007 | 11:24 PM
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You ever gonna disclose what you have done to your car and the power its making? Dynos?
Old 03-11-2007 | 11:49 PM
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You ever gonna disclose what you have done to your car and the power its making? Dynos?
For what?????? The answer to that question would be no. sorry bro.
Old 03-12-2007 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Munch
I'm willing to bet money on it, that the never put the bolt that is supposed to connect the downpipe to the block . If he didn't that would be why the wastegate dump tube cracked. It happened to me when I first installed my kit. Turbonetics sent me a brand new one, no questions asked. Once I put the bolt where it belonged. I never had that problem again, pushing way more horsepower than the kit comes with. Everyone that had the cracking problem has been because of that bolt not being installed when the kit was put on the car.
I had the bolt on that connected it to the downpipe and mines still cracked, recently had it overnighted and replaced, hopefully it doesnt happen again.
Old 03-12-2007 | 02:07 AM
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wow, all these turbonetics issues rising, hmmmm, makes me wonder about their quality.
Old 03-12-2007 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by N-Dawg
wow, all these turbonetics issues rising, hmmmm, makes me wonder about their quality.
Well, there is a reason why theres such a bada$a warranty. Im sure kia's the best car company because theres a 100k mile warranty
Old 03-12-2007 | 03:18 AM
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turbonetics has always had problems. if its not the turbo seals, its something else. but in this case, its not anything serious. i'd just get a exhaust shop to do a quick weld on it and it'll be fine.

but first, take it up with T-Netics to see what they say.
Old 03-12-2007 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Originally Posted by N-Dawg
wow, all these turbonetics issues rising, hmmmm, makes me wonder about their quality.
Well, there is a reason why theres such a bada$a warranty. Im sure kia's the best car company because theres a 100k mile warranty

Please dont turn this into a bash thread. To each his own.

I do know that a couple of years ago Turbonetics had issues with thier product. I have 2 turbonetics tC in my family going on a year without any issues. I'm going to agree with Munch on this and say it was prolly a install error, not to sound like a jerk. Besides its impossible to turbo a car that wasnt made for it with at least some small bumps in the road. A crack in a downpipe is a VERY small problem when you consider what could go wrong.
Old 03-12-2007 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by yamaha16bw
Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Originally Posted by N-Dawg
wow, all these turbonetics issues rising, hmmmm, makes me wonder about their quality.
Well, there is a reason why theres such a bada$a warranty. Im sure kia's the best car company because theres a 100k mile warranty

Please dont turn this into a bash thread. To each his own.

I do know that a couple of years ago Turbonetics had issues with thier product. I have 2 turbonetics tC in my family going on a year without any issues. I'm going to agree with Munch on this and say it was prolly a install error, not to sound like a jerk. Besides its impossible to turbo a car that wasnt made for it with at least some small bumps in the road. A crack in a downpipe is a VERY small problem when you consider what could go wrong.
booo, it wasn't an install error

I mounted the downpipe to the block as I was supposed to.

All bolts were torqued to spec.

It was just a fluke deal and I will get it fixed and move on my merry way

thanks for all of your input
Old 03-12-2007 | 05:29 PM
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this doesnt have anything to do with your post but if you are still running your stock spipe ide swap it out. The trd exhaust is nothing but a nicer sounding stock exhaust.
Old 03-12-2007 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jwaggz82
this doesnt have anything to do with your post but if you are still running your stock spipe ide swap it out. The trd exhaust is nothing but a nicer sounding stock exhaust.
Yea I totally know what you mean, I am not pleased with the exhaust system that I have right now and I am lookin in to getting a whole new system like a turbo-back system.

thx for your recommendation though
Old 03-12-2007 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MrHer0
Originally Posted by jwaggz82
this doesnt have anything to do with your post but if you are still running your stock spipe ide swap it out. The trd exhaust is nothing but a nicer sounding stock exhaust.
Yea I totally know what you mean, I am not pleased with the exhaust system that I have right now and I am lookin in to getting a whole new system like a turbo-back system.

thx for your recommendation though
np - im just bringing it up because you prob have 15whp or more bottled up in your exhaust.
Old 03-13-2007 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MrHer0
Originally Posted by yamaha16bw
Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Originally Posted by N-Dawg
wow, all these turbonetics issues rising, hmmmm, makes me wonder about their quality.
Well, there is a reason why theres such a bada$a warranty. Im sure kia's the best car company because theres a 100k mile warranty

Please dont turn this into a bash thread. To each his own.

I do know that a couple of years ago Turbonetics had issues with thier product. I have 2 turbonetics tC in my family going on a year without any issues. I'm going to agree with Munch on this and say it was prolly a install error, not to sound like a jerk. Besides its impossible to turbo a car that wasnt made for it with at least some small bumps in the road. A crack in a downpipe is a VERY small problem when you consider what could go wrong.
booo, it wasn't an install error

I mounted the downpipe to the block as I was supposed to.

All bolts were torqued to spec.

It was just a fluke deal and I will get it fixed and move on my merry way

thanks for all of your input



I didnt mean to make it sound like you messed up or something. Sorry about that bro.
Old 03-13-2007 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by StealthScion
Originally Posted by N-Dawg
ok so turbonetics wastegate dump has bad welds.
that sucks. but i have to say, i'm not all-together surprised.

imo the whole manifold design is poor.

1-with how short the runners are theres going to be extreme exhaust pressure inside the manifold/wastegate and downpipe
2-the wastegate-downpipe is situated right off the 2 cylinder, which doesn't account for maximum flow capability and looks like it creates alot of backpressure. ie. the wg only really bleeds 1 and 2 cylinder...
3-the wg-downpipe itself appears to be 1/4-1/8" too narrow diameter. AND most importantly, the downpipe is supporting [some of] the weight of the turbo and downpipe/piping, which when driving on bumpy roads, over time will wear on those suspect welds.

overall, yeah, i'm not very impressed with the design, especially for a TNetics kit.
Do you own or have you seen first hand the downpipe construction of the kit. Your posts are "suspect" if you haven't the system is braced for exactly this reason. In regards to the manifold theres only so many ways to squeeze a turbo and wastegate into a FWD car and unless you have come up with some better design exactly how are you qualified to make the judgement? Theres absolutely nothing wrong with the way the manifold is setup. The dump pipe is MORE then sufficient for the CFM flowing through there. The problem has nothing to do with the welds and has more to do with the amount of movement this motor experiences under increased power levels. The bellow is only flexible to a point and is likely being repeatedly flexed to the torsional limit. All the owner needs to do is call Turbonetics and they will overnight him a new piece . The Project Manager has been made aware of this failure and either already has or will shortly be making revisions to the downpipe to correct the risk of this occuring.
Old 03-13-2007 | 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 03DSM-RSX
turbonetics has always had problems. if its not the turbo seals, its something else. but in this case, its not anything serious. i'd just get a exhaust shop to do a quick weld on it and it'll be fine.

but first, take it up with T-Netics to see what they say.
Whats interesting is how the car forums work. For every person having trouble there seems to be 2 not having problems but no one seems to know about those...
Old 03-13-2007 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Originally Posted by 03DSM-RSX
turbonetics has always had problems. if its not the turbo seals, its something else. but in this case, its not anything serious. i'd just get a exhaust shop to do a quick weld on it and it'll be fine.

but first, take it up with T-Netics to see what they say.
Whats interesting is how the car forums work. For every person having trouble there seems to be 2 not having problems but no one seems to know about those...
yea, people are r-tarded. to say the least.
Old 03-13-2007 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Originally Posted by StealthScion
Originally Posted by N-Dawg
ok so turbonetics wastegate dump has bad welds.
that sucks. but i have to say, i'm not all-together surprised.

imo the whole manifold design is poor.

1-with how short the runners are theres going to be extreme exhaust pressure inside the manifold/wastegate and downpipe
2-the wastegate-downpipe is situated right off the 2 cylinder, which doesn't account for maximum flow capability and looks like it creates alot of backpressure. ie. the wg only really bleeds 1 and 2 cylinder...
3-the wg-downpipe itself appears to be 1/4-1/8" too narrow diameter. AND most importantly, the downpipe is supporting [some of] the weight of the turbo and downpipe/piping, which when driving on bumpy roads, over time will wear on those suspect welds.

overall, yeah, i'm not very impressed with the design, especially for a TNetics kit.
Do you own or have you seen first hand the downpipe construction of the kit. Your posts are "suspect" if you haven't the system is braced for exactly this reason. In regards to the manifold theres only so many ways to squeeze a turbo and wastegate into a FWD car and unless you have come up with some better design exactly how are you qualified to make the judgement? Theres absolutely nothing wrong with the way the manifold is setup. The dump pipe is MORE then sufficient for the CFM flowing through there. The problem has nothing to do with the welds and has more to do with the amount of movement this motor experiences under increased power levels. The bellow is only flexible to a point and is likely being repeatedly flexed to the torsional limit. All the owner needs to do is call Turbonetics and they will overnight him a new piece . The Project Manager has been made aware of this failure and either already has or will shortly be making revisions to the downpipe to correct the risk of this occuring.
so if theyre making revisions, do the current owners get one free or do we have to purchase it?
Old 03-13-2007 | 06:42 AM
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Old 03-14-2007 | 12:23 AM
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i'v swapped 4 of these downpipes in a year..welcome to the club...;)..
Old 03-15-2007 | 11:47 PM
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im out of warranty... if another one of these cracks im scrapping the kit. I have my old one as a backup with the cracked piece welded on again.
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