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Old 02-10-2010 | 01:58 AM
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Okay so our tCs come with stock widebands?

Also will a t3 with .45 trim be a good mild turbo for a spirited daily driver? I don't want to run more than 8 psi. I am looking at 'stage 3' clutch and flywheel combo

what kind of gains can I expect to see from this setup and is this mild enough to be a reliable daily driver?
Old 02-10-2010 | 02:43 AM
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its more of an inbetween of a narrow band and wideband.

a t3/t4 50trim with a .48a/r turbine would be a nice quick spooling turbo with a ton of fun. could go with a .63a/r turbine housing if you wanted.

what you said will be fun too and will add roughly 100hp over stock. so prolly in the ballpark of 230-240hp...just a guess though.
Old 02-10-2010 | 03:57 AM
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You'll want to use a secondary wideband. AEM UGEO is a good choice. That turbo IMO would be a little too small even for mild street. You'll notice boost very quickly with a choked top end. a T3/T4 50 trim like crush said is one of the more popular choices. With experience with a 50 trim, i would suggest a .63 hot side vs the .48. And if it were me, i would use a 57 trim with .82 hotside. Lag is not noticable and you'll later prefer higher top end flow over instant boost.
Old 02-10-2010 | 04:11 AM
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thanks for the info do recommend a certain fi controller thinking AEM.. what about a'pexi? any experience with either?

what kind of boost can i run stock internals with a t3 t4?

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Old 02-10-2010 | 12:37 PM
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aem f/ic ftw and u have to check i have heard some ppl on here runnin 12psi stock motor but i personally know of a guy running 10psi dd with no prob
Old 02-10-2010 | 01:16 PM
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it's not the amount of boost the engine can handle... it's the horsepower the engine can handle... which is roughly 350. all of your questions though no matter what they are... can most likely be found with a quick search. and the fic would be the best for a DD
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i ran 12 psi for a while... on a 60-1 turbo never dyno'd it but i know i was over 300
Old 02-10-2010 | 03:39 PM
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The clutch might be a little overkill imo. The rest of advice is solid.
Old 02-10-2010 | 03:58 PM
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i'm running 14 psi daily driving. 308 whp, aem f/ic. so far so good.
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
i'm running 14 psi daily driving. 308 whp, aem f/ic. so far so good.
why are you only making that much power at 14 psi?
Old 02-10-2010 | 05:21 PM
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yea seriously...? lol
Old 02-10-2010 | 05:27 PM
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because he has the TT simple kit... pos manifold
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Originally Posted by weezyfbayba
because he has the TT simple kit... pos manifold
didnt carbonxe have a simple kit? im pretty sure he made more power, on less boost on the same dyno, with the f/ic?
Old 02-10-2010 | 05:32 PM
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don't know, using a gt3071R with a .82 a/r. because of limited clearance space between the turbo and the radiator shroud, it uses a gt28 compressor cover. but who knows, my engine has 81k miles, has been put through the paces, maybe my compression is alittle low.
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
don't know, using a gt3071R with a .82 a/r. because of limited clearance space between the turbo and the radiator shroud, it uses a gt28 compressor cover. but who knows, my engine has 81k miles, has been put through the paces, maybe my compression is alittle low.
i had to remove the fan shroud, and mount push fans on the other side of the rad myself. look into it; you would probably make the same power @ 10 psi with a proper compressor housing. sounds like that one is choking.
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thanks for all the advice first off. Yea I think stage 3 is a little overkill for now but when or if I need to rebuild motor I will no longer be only running 8-10 psi so it will be about right then. Also I am going to run stock clutch as long as possible at least until I take manual transmissions this summer at school.

My main concern is with the o2 sensors. With a f/ic and a uego do I need more than just the one wideband making it the only o2 sensor or would I need a total of 3.. I have seen the uego can emulate a narrow so thus replacing stock?

Next I have to have a cat on this car and I will run 2.5" pipe but has anyone had any luck with a certain brand? I put a magnaflow 'high flow' on the suburban but thing is a terd anyway so I don't need if it restricts too much or not
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Originally Posted by brett561tc
i had to remove the fan shroud, and mount push fans on the other side of the rad myself. look into it; you would probably make the same power @ 10 psi with a proper compressor housing. sounds like that one is choking.
well, i have a koyo radiator now, mishamoto fan shroud, and even shaved the core support to move it further forward to clear the turbo! have a blanket on the turbo to for safety. but i'm fine, car makes the power i want, it is more than my current tires can even handle.

see, the problem is, i have the kaminari hood, and i heard that most turbo kits hit that reverse hood scoop, so i asked todd for a custom kit that would mount the turbo and wastegate lower, which ended up being a little lower, but also further forward, and closer to the radiator. so d'oh! but everything works now, car makes great power, and i love it.
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u get a 2.1 manifold and ull see a big power increase
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the only brand that makes a catted downpipe is dezod. so that kinda limits you there. if you need the cat just to not throw a CEL you can use a CEL eliminator like the antifoul trick and you won't throw a CEL without the cat on the downpipe. You will still use the o2 sensor that came with the car as well as the the sensor that comes with the uego.
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and where would i exactly get another turbotoyotas manifold? LOL

and then i would have to get a new downpipe, new intake plumbing reworked etc. not worth it. i have the power i want. i thought about getting a boost flow ram horn style manifold, which was the turbotoyotas tubular manifold, but i'd have to go back to my stock hood, and have everything reworked to fit.

my car is fine the way it is.


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