tom0613

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Got my head from the machine shop today and when I took it home I put the my stage two Brian crower cams in take clearance measurements the cams will not turn, when I put the caps on. Has any one had this problem.

brett561tc

are you trying to turn them by hand? if so, you are gonna need to be pretty strong to compress the valve springs. did u use assembly lube?

thendawg

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Sorry - just saw your pm - Im running stock cams, but I have BC valvesprings/retainers and damn when I was timing everything the cams were a major PITA to turn even with a 1/2" ratchet, so it could possibly be you just arent trying hard enough (Provided everything is properly lubed and assembled and nothings binding) Also, you dont have the head on the engine do you?

tom0613

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Everything is lubes and the head is off the motor, also I have the cam gears on and trying to turn it by hand with ratchet. It just feels really hard didn't not think it should be that hard to turn I guess I will try harder and see

tom0613

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My friend thinks the caps might need to be honed and aligned, I thought this was un necessary since the caps were used on this head originally. But guess I will but some more effete and use a half in drive

RusWolf

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Hey man, where in younkers are you ?
I'm coming home on leave in the next few weeks and i'm from yonkers as well. I should check out your car when i get there.

thendawg

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I remember it being quite impressive the amount of force required to turn my cams with the BC valvesprings. With cams with even larger lobes Im sure itd be even worse. Oh and dont be frightened, its not smooth when you turn them lol, its like turn a little bit than bam, a little bit more, bam again - its from the lobes moving over the valves.

tom0613

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im am located in north broadway

tom0613

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i will give it a try tomorrow thanks for the help thendawg

tom0613

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ok serious problem there are no valves in the head right now and when i lay the cams down with out the caps it does not lay on the cam journals. i dont have the stock cams so i cant even tell what the heck is going on

Syldrin

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maybe BC sent you the wrong cams on accident try to find a part number and double check. it should be stamped on the cam.

tom0613

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i just measured the journals on the cams and they are .9045 can some one tell be if this is within spec

thendawg

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Sorry currently at work, otherwise I could just mic a cam I have laying at home. The only thing I can find in the service manual is the standard journal diameter for the large journal on the timing chain end and its supposed to be 1.4162-1.4167 in.

tom0613

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thanks man, if you could give me specs on the stock cam that would be help full i will even post pics tomorrow

tom0613

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i will give it a shot again tomorrow just trying to find out some specs. i just ordered a cd for the car hope fully this should help me out

thendawg

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I have the entire service manual if you want it. I use it all the time. Def used it alot for specs when building my motor.

tom0613

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i just ordered the service manual but in a disk version, i went to barnes and noble looking for one and they did no have any in stock. but thanks

tom0613

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also thendawg thanks for replying to my pm's and your help i appreciate it alot

tom0613

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pics and a video of the cam not sitting in place correctly.

http://s217.photobucket.com/home/tom0613/index

tom0613

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the cams just dont role smoothly even with the caps off? dont know if its supposed to be like this or not