johnhawkins

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Just wondering how much an engine build would cost (just labor)
Plan to bring the car there with engine still in.
Any one no any reputable engine builders in the Western New York area?

Wiseco Pistons
Carrillo K-1 Rods
TOGA Bearings
SuperTech Valves
Cometic Head Gasket
ARP Head Studs
Crower Valve Springs+Retainers

NotAStockScion

They are probably going to quote you above $2000+ for pulling, building, putting it back in

thendawg

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Id highly suggest if you have even decent mechanical knowledge/skills - to pull the motor yourself - the first time i pulled a 2az from a tc it took me about 7 1/2 - 8 hrs total - my most recent i was able to pull in under 4 1/2 hrs. A shop is going to charge you 8 hrs to pull and 8 hrs to install the the motor. At the avg current labor rate of $80-90/hr thats gunna be $1300-1500 - plus the cost to build the motor - the local machine shop i go to charged me $400 to bore the block - hone cylinders - clean it up - machine the crank - and assemble the bottom end - o yea and that price included the oversized bearings

SoFloTC

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^ ya the labor cost is ridic

johnhawkins

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thanks guys---yea thats wat everyone has told me so far---i could do it but jsut dont want to lol but if it will be tat much then ill do it myself---does it need to be completly pulled in order to do the internals

SoFloTC

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yes if u want it done right.

purevision01

Internals can be done with the block in the car but is a serious PITA... My shop is in the next state... But I think it would be closer for you to go to dezod then to come to me.

johnhawkins

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dezod is about 10 minutes from me but they denied me and said they do not offer any engine building at this time which SUXXXXX. I think i might but a new head from kaking or sumthign liek that in CA i have the link at home-its like $500 and im goin to try and find a block to build...then swap the motor...any one know where to get a stock block?

Prototype_xB

Add sleeves to your grocery list.

coryjames

my build
darton sleeves 450
rods pistons 1100
bearings 100
cams valves 1000
machine work
cut in sleeves port head on exhaust side polish intake no port assembly of long block with head 1000
do the math not to mention head gasket other gaskets oil and all tthe goodies its pricey trust me

B_Real45

I think sleeves are pretty much useless unless you either:

1.) Want to run really ridiculous amounts of boost (30+)
2.) Want to bore out the cyls to over 90mm (which would make the sleeves weaker anyways)

I wouldn't waste money on sleeves in my opinion. Stick with the stock sleeves and close to stock bore.

coryjames

stock liners you mean stock liners lol but its cheep insurance

purevision01

I agree... I'm aiming for 500whp on stock sleeves... There is another tc out here with approx 550whp on stock sleeves but I forget who it is.

TurboToyotas

list of questions:

1. Do you already posses the parts you mentioned?
2. If not do you have to have those parts you listed? (their are 2 on their you will not benefit anything from and will save you money)
3. Are you trying to do the "job" on a budget?

Most shops will charge you "book" labor rates ie what it says in a Scion/Toyota manual to remove/install the motor.

That could cost more than the actual work you are after all by itself.

their are other options...

depending on what your goals/need are.

I'll wait and see what your answers to 1-3 are before I elaborate.

Regards-

Todd