engine management - What do i need to buy TOTAL?
12-06-2007, 09:18 PM
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engine management - What do i need to buy TOTAL?
So i want to get some sort of engine management so that i can do a tune on my S/C. I think it's coming down to the AEM F/IC and the Greddy EManage.
What i'm confused about is the total cost of EVERYTHING. do i need to buy a harness? anything else?
I read Dezod's pdf comparing the AEM and the GReddy, and it seems like the AEM is the way to go. But do i still need all the harnesses and such that the Greddy needs? does the Greddy even NEED all those harnesses and add ons?
Basically.. WHAT do i need to buy to get it all installed and brought to the tuner guy?
What i'm confused about is the total cost of EVERYTHING. do i need to buy a harness? anything else?
I read Dezod's pdf comparing the AEM and the GReddy, and it seems like the AEM is the way to go. But do i still need all the harnesses and such that the Greddy needs? does the Greddy even NEED all those harnesses and add ons?
Basically.. WHAT do i need to buy to get it all installed and brought to the tuner guy?
12-06-2007, 09:52 PM
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depends on how complete you want the control of your tune to be.
and emanage would be fine, but if you want to control ignition and timing and read off boost instead of the maf sensor, or partial throttle tune etc, you need all that stuff to go with it.
or you can get the AEM and the pnp harness and you good to go.
and emanage would be fine, but if you want to control ignition and timing and read off boost instead of the maf sensor, or partial throttle tune etc, you need all that stuff to go with it.
or you can get the AEM and the pnp harness and you good to go.
12-06-2007, 10:02 PM
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Don't really need the plug and play harness. You can go with just E-manage but I'd pony up for the boost sensor and boost sensor harness plus the injector and ignition harnesses. Should be in the $500 range which is still inexpensive. Hydra EMS standalone is about $2000 and of course the better way to go but of course 4X the cost.
12-06-2007, 10:26 PM
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Here's the thing...if you're going Emanage...you're best bet is to get the ultimate because if you get the Blue...you need to get the injector, ignition, and boost sensor harness to allow it to be properly tuned. You also don't necessarily need the plug and play setup if you know a good shop...but if you're doing it yourself, then get the plug and play setup (it will cost the same either way) Since, if i remember correctly, you are in Rancho...i know of a great shop to install it in Baldwin Park and then tuning...Church's Dyno in Long Beach/Wilmington FTW!!
12-06-2007, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BuddhasTC
Here's the thing...if you're going Emanage...you're best bet is to get the ultimate because if you get the Blue...you need to get the injector, ignition, and boost sensor harness to allow it to be properly tuned. You also don't necessarily need the plug and play setup if you know a good shop...but if you're doing it yourself, then get the plug and play setup (it will cost the same either way) Since, if i remember correctly, you are in Rancho...i know of a great shop to install it in Baldwin Park and then tuning...Church's Dyno in Long Beach/Wilmington FTW!!
so it boils down to if i want the Emanage or the AEM F/IC then. cuz i really don't want to spend $300 just for a harness for the AEM.
12-06-2007, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 2_much_tc
does church's tune the AEM F/IC? I know they tune the Emanage, and they have some good tunes for it. Just wondering if they have ever worked on the AEM one...
http://home.earthlink.net/~spchurch/...motivetesting/
so.. anyone have a site with the lowest price on emanage blue + harness?
12-07-2007, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BuddhasTC
Here's the thing...if you're going Emanage...you're best bet is to get the ultimate because if you get the Blue...you need to get the injector, ignition, and boost sensor harness to allow it to be properly tuned. You also don't necessarily need the plug and play setup if you know a good shop...but if you're doing it yourself, then get the plug and play setup (it will cost the same either way) Since, if i remember correctly, you are in Rancho...i know of a great shop to install it in Baldwin Park and then tuning...Church's Dyno in Long Beach/Wilmington FTW!!
so it boils down to if i want the Emanage or the AEM F/IC then. cuz i really don't want to spend $300 just for a harness for the AEM.
12-07-2007, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BuddhasTC
si senor, that's exactly what i did. I had them install it (Emanage Blue), and they installed by splicing the wires, no harness needed, then i drove to Church's the next day and got tuned. Try to get it tunes ASAP after the install because you will be runnin real rich after the install.
Also.. if anyone knows where i can get the AEM F/IC + harness for around $500-$600.. that could also be an option for me.
12-07-2007, 03:57 PM
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the AEM F/IC comes with a harness... if you mean you want a plug and play harness, that's going to be expensive. if you know anyone who is good with electronics and soldering, you'll be fine with the harness that it comes with. it'll save you close to $300. whatever you decide, i highly recommend buying your stuff from dezod. i bought the F/IC and pnp harness from them two weeks ago. great harness and great guys over there.
12-07-2007, 05:32 PM
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If your going to chuch, he DOES the f/IC on a few tCs alraedy. He may even be able to splice to wire it up to save you money on the pnp harness.
Remember, with the blue, you need to buy the software and cable as well for another $100.
And Pete, where did you see that price? I got mine for $400 unit and $300 harness.
Remember, with the blue, you need to buy the software and cable as well for another $100.
And Pete, where did you see that price? I got mine for $400 unit and $300 harness.
12-07-2007, 07:53 PM
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Well i just ordered the AEM F/IC
Gruppe-S / Dynamic Autosports has em for $342.92 TOTAL.
Dynamic Autosports, Inc. / Gruppe-S
ph 949.457.1234
fax 949.457.8000
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Contact/about_us.htm
They can also install and tune it. I didn't get a price on installation, but tuning = $150/hr + $50 strap down cost using a Mustang Dyno.
Gruppe-S / Dynamic Autosports has em for $342.92 TOTAL.
Dynamic Autosports, Inc. / Gruppe-S
ph 949.457.1234
fax 949.457.8000
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Contact/about_us.htm
They can also install and tune it. I didn't get a price on installation, but tuning = $150/hr + $50 strap down cost using a Mustang Dyno.