Facts About The Supercharger
#1
Facts About The Supercharger
I just wanted to put a little something out to help evrybody with there supercharged tc's. I read a lot about what all of you have to say about the s/c and mods for it and quite frankly some of you have a lot to learn. So a few quick facts.
1. A header w/o a cat will cause you to lose boost and when it comes on. Trust me. I went from alphawerks back to stock huge difference. And to mention 2.5 psi. You dont have to believe me. Ask some of my buddies @ vortech. 805.247.0226. They will tell you about there s/c unit and back pressure.
2. e-manage is pretty much garbage for the Tc. If you want a good piggyback system go for the uni-chip. Who cares if you need an authorized tuner or dealer to tune it, it's for a reason. To be an authorized tuner you have to take a 2 day course at there facility. If you dont have one in your area go to the website at the bottom. Myself and Dave at Forcefed Racing are working on 3 different tunes for the s/c. 7psi, 9psi and 11 psi as of next sunday.(thanks to Kenny @ ZPI for the custom pulley) Dave will load the correct map for your app. and send you your uni-chip. All you have to do is plug it in. No splicing or any wiring of any type and its about the size of an ipod so you can put it anywhere. Not to mention comes with a switch to change maps. Perhaps if your doing it like me and you have a race gas map.
I'm not trying to affend anybody that thinks differently but I currently have an s/c Tc with probably more power then a lot of people out there. I see people with haeder's, straight exhaust intercoolers, 9.8 psi... all i have is the uni-chip, k&n filter, 2.5 inch exhaust w/ both cats and a zpi 9lb pulley and there all getting less power than I am. You can see my car dynographs and Tc s/c packages @
forcefedracing.com
237.6 whp 8.5 psi no intercooler 91 octane
250+whp on 98 octane[/b]
1. A header w/o a cat will cause you to lose boost and when it comes on. Trust me. I went from alphawerks back to stock huge difference. And to mention 2.5 psi. You dont have to believe me. Ask some of my buddies @ vortech. 805.247.0226. They will tell you about there s/c unit and back pressure.
2. e-manage is pretty much garbage for the Tc. If you want a good piggyback system go for the uni-chip. Who cares if you need an authorized tuner or dealer to tune it, it's for a reason. To be an authorized tuner you have to take a 2 day course at there facility. If you dont have one in your area go to the website at the bottom. Myself and Dave at Forcefed Racing are working on 3 different tunes for the s/c. 7psi, 9psi and 11 psi as of next sunday.(thanks to Kenny @ ZPI for the custom pulley) Dave will load the correct map for your app. and send you your uni-chip. All you have to do is plug it in. No splicing or any wiring of any type and its about the size of an ipod so you can put it anywhere. Not to mention comes with a switch to change maps. Perhaps if your doing it like me and you have a race gas map.
I'm not trying to affend anybody that thinks differently but I currently have an s/c Tc with probably more power then a lot of people out there. I see people with haeder's, straight exhaust intercoolers, 9.8 psi... all i have is the uni-chip, k&n filter, 2.5 inch exhaust w/ both cats and a zpi 9lb pulley and there all getting less power than I am. You can see my car dynographs and Tc s/c packages @
forcefedracing.com
237.6 whp 8.5 psi no intercooler 91 octane
250+whp on 98 octane[/b]
#7
well as of this coming sunday we will see 11 psi on 91 and 98 octane with custom uni-chip tunes. I am getting new injectors and forge 007 bpv but the only thing that will be changing in the future is going to psi increases and i/c possibly
#8
How far do you think you can go with the TRD S/C non intercooled?
I believe 'Munch' a member on here had a pretty good setup with the TRD and Unichip, at about 12lbs via NST. He never disclosed his number he made, but maybe he will now...
I believe 'Munch' a member on here had a pretty good setup with the TRD and Unichip, at about 12lbs via NST. He never disclosed his number he made, but maybe he will now...
#11
Do you know why you loose boost freeing up the exhaust flow? That means your moving more air through your engine increasing your VE "quick go look up what VE is haha". Increase VE then add more boost / fuel and you = more HP. The statement of your car being faster with the stock cat and header has to be the most ****** ***** ****** *** ***** **** retarded thing I have heard this week. I thought force fed actually was pretty smart, but if he thinks the stock cat and header is helping you out, then I just lost all faith in that company. Heck you wanna see a great boost number??? Stick a potato in your exhaust, hope you think your faster then! Also your dyno could read high, could read low. Only thing a real tuner cares about is before and after dyno's in a controlled enviroment. Not just one dyno that looks good. How about you guys post up dyno results all the way through the cars build? How about a dyno of your car with aftermarket header and then one with stock, I cannot wait to see this claimed powerloss with an aftermarket header since it has already been proven to help drastically.
Guess I can agree with you on the e-manage. I have always hated that peice of crap.
I swear I will make more enemies on this club cutting through there bullcrap. Feels like I am on a honda forum full of noobs and everyone has the answer.
Guess I can agree with you on the e-manage. I have always hated that peice of crap.
I swear I will make more enemies on this club cutting through there bullcrap. Feels like I am on a honda forum full of noobs and everyone has the answer.
#14
So you are telling me that because I have a 3" exhaust and header with no cat, that I am not making the 9lbs of boost that I am making? Comeon.. I am making full boost with the largest exhaust on here, and I had the highest hp dyno proven with no tuning.....
#16
Yeah, I want parts from a company that thinks the stock header nets more hp. What parts is this guy going to make, A new exhaust restrictor to net even more ponies? I just cannot buy from a guy that thinks increasing air into an engine and not increasing airflow out is a good idea. Guess this guy is just the owner of the car they tuned, but man... what can I say
#17
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Originally Posted by HighlanderMac
So you are telling me that because I have a 3" exhaust and header with no cat, that I am not making the 9lbs of boost that I am making? Comeon.. I am making full boost with the largest exhaust on here, and I had the highest hp dyno proven with no tuning.....
#20
Originally Posted by zer0
Idk, this is a company willing to make and do things for the TRD supercharger, and everyone is complaining... wtf gives?
Give em a chance.
Give em a chance.