Fastest/most powerful 2AZ tC to date?
10-29-2008, 06:14 AM
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Damn this is funnnnnny!!!!
I have to say that I like the evo alot more then the tc, but it was also a 28k(base) car new(in 06). I paid 17k for my 06 tc(used) two years ago. If I put the difference(11k)in my tc, then my tc would beat stock evos allday at the drag strip. I know that awd is better the fwd and rwd(in some cases), but look at how much more it costs to get a good awd car.
like I said I LOVE THE EVO and I will have one some day, till then I will keep trying to make my tc the quickest allmotor tc around.
It was funny reading this.
Just my .02
10-29-2008, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
RADO IS flippin' UNLIMITED
PTUNING IS flippin' MODIFIED
JESUS flippin' CHRIST HOW flippin' RETARDED ARE YOU?!?!?
THERE ARE 3 CLASSES IN TIME ATTACK, STREET, MODIFIED AND UNLIMITED. THESE CLASSES HAVE RESTRICTIONS. THE PTUNING TC HAS MORE RESTRICTIONS THAN RADO'S TC. HOYL flip, YOU ARE THE DUMBEST PERSON I HAVE EVER TALKED TO.
And yes, tC's have potential, THATS WHY THEYRE LEADING FWD. WHAT YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE, IS THAT FWD IS NOTHING COMPARED TO AWD. I'm not a flippin' AMS fanboy, IT'S FACT THAT THEY HOLD TRACK RECORDS.
You're inane stupidity has caused me to actually lose my temper for the first time in 6 years. Congrats on being the stupidest person on Scionlife.
PTUNING IS flippin' MODIFIED
JESUS flippin' CHRIST HOW flippin' RETARDED ARE YOU?!?!?
THERE ARE 3 CLASSES IN TIME ATTACK, STREET, MODIFIED AND UNLIMITED. THESE CLASSES HAVE RESTRICTIONS. THE PTUNING TC HAS MORE RESTRICTIONS THAN RADO'S TC. HOYL flip, YOU ARE THE DUMBEST PERSON I HAVE EVER TALKED TO.
And yes, tC's have potential, THATS WHY THEYRE LEADING FWD. WHAT YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE, IS THAT FWD IS NOTHING COMPARED TO AWD. I'm not a flippin' AMS fanboy, IT'S FACT THAT THEY HOLD TRACK RECORDS.
You're inane stupidity has caused me to actually lose my temper for the first time in 6 years. Congrats on being the stupidest person on Scionlife.
10-29-2008, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
Originally Posted by InfiniteVisi0n
Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
its called ____ing money into the wind when you could just sell the FWD car and buy a RWD car and make it just as fast for 1/2 the money.
im not saying im all against it, im just saying its not the smartest idea.
im not saying im all against it, im just saying its not the smartest idea.
. Plus everyone was skeptical about fwd cars from the start but look at the fwd civics and gsrs' that run high 9's. Recent news, look at Rado's and Ptunnings time attack FWD tCs, both smashing up the tracks. Rado placed 1st a couple of times, beating out the HKS and AMS awd Evos'. Im sure you know this. Any who if you feel like thats wasting money then maybe you should feel the same way about buying some cheap springs and having your car so low to the ground that you can barely make it up a slant. You might as well have shorten your stock springs if all your going for is looks.did you srsly just call me out?
and dude, how many times do i have to fkin tell you before you get it.
I LIVE IN ILLINOIS RIGHT FKING NEXT TO YOUUUU!
YES, there are civics and isht that run 9's.
most of them are sponsored or shop owned.
and they are not daily drivers.
and you calling out my lowness just shows how much of a fool you are.
you have nothing better to say.
and it also shows how fkin stupid you are, theyre not springs, theyre called coilovers.
....
o and did i mention, they retail for more than ANY mod on your car and more than likely retail for more than SEVERAL of your mods combine.
kthxbaiiii!~
10-29-2008, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Supafil25
InfiniteVisi0n why are you mentioning hondas when your trying to prove a point about scions. if you have money you can make any car fast. then wtf is this about cheap springs??? yellows coils >>> your car and ur life!!!
10-29-2008, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by InfiniteVisi0n
Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
Originally Posted by InfiniteVisi0n
Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
its called ____ing money into the wind when you could just sell the FWD car and buy a RWD car and make it just as fast for 1/2 the money.
im not saying im all against it, im just saying its not the smartest idea.
im not saying im all against it, im just saying its not the smartest idea.
. Plus everyone was skeptical about fwd cars from the start but look at the fwd civics and gsrs' that run high 9's. Recent news, look at Rado's and Ptunnings time attack FWD tCs, both smashing up the tracks. Rado placed 1st a couple of times, beating out the HKS and AMS awd Evos'. Im sure you know this. Any who if you feel like thats wasting money then maybe you should feel the same way about buying some cheap springs and having your car so low to the ground that you can barely make it up a slant. You might as well have shorten your stock springs if all your going for is looks.did you srsly just call me out?
and dude, how many times do i have to fkin tell you before you get it.
I LIVE IN ILLINOIS RIGHT FKING NEXT TO YOUUUU!
YES, there are civics and isht that run 9's.
most of them are sponsored or shop owned.
and they are not daily drivers.
and you calling out my lowness just shows how much of a fool you are.
you have nothing better to say.
and it also shows how fkin stupid you are, theyre not springs, theyre called coilovers.
....
o and did i mention, they retail for more than ANY mod on your car and more than likely retail for more than SEVERAL of your mods combine.
kthxbaiiii!~
and we already discussed this, yes im stupid for slamming it that low, yada yada yada, sorry that im not a fkin retard and i dont find it necessary to drive 100 MPH on public roads or take turns and 80 MPH, the car still handles fine, im not saying it worse then stock, but it is no where near being no driveable.
and just like i said before when i told you where i live. (which ive already told you multiple times) LEARN TO READ.
I HAVE ANOTHER CARE WITH MORE HP AND ITS RWD THAT I WILL BE DRIVING IN THE WINTER.
why would i re-raise the coils...?
whats the point in driving two diff cars in the winter.
the tc will sit in the garage while my other car gets driven.
*sigh*
idk why im even wasting my time.
10-29-2008, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
Originally Posted by InfiniteVisi0n
Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
Originally Posted by InfiniteVisi0n
Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
its called ____ing money into the wind when you could just sell the FWD car and buy a RWD car and make it just as fast for 1/2 the money.
im not saying im all against it, im just saying its not the smartest idea.
im not saying im all against it, im just saying its not the smartest idea.
. Plus everyone was skeptical about fwd cars from the start but look at the fwd civics and gsrs' that run high 9's. Recent news, look at Rado's and Ptunnings time attack FWD tCs, both smashing up the tracks. Rado placed 1st a couple of times, beating out the HKS and AMS awd Evos'. Im sure you know this. Any who if you feel like thats wasting money then maybe you should feel the same way about buying some cheap springs and having your car so low to the ground that you can barely make it up a slant. You might as well have shorten your stock springs if all your going for is looks.did you srsly just call me out?
and dude, how many times do i have to fkin tell you before you get it.
I LIVE IN ILLINOIS RIGHT FKING NEXT TO YOUUUU!
YES, there are civics and isht that run 9's.
most of them are sponsored or shop owned.
and they are not daily drivers.
and you calling out my lowness just shows how much of a fool you are.
you have nothing better to say.
and it also shows how fkin stupid you are, theyre not springs, theyre called coilovers.
....
o and did i mention, they retail for more than ANY mod on your car and more than likely retail for more than SEVERAL of your mods combine.
kthxbaiiii!~
and we already discussed this, yes im stupid for slamming it that low, yada yada yada, sorry that im not a fkin retard and i dont find it necessary to drive 100 MPH on public roads or take turns and 80 MPH, the car still handles fine, im not saying it worse then stock, but it is no where near being no driveable.
and just like i said before when i told you where i live. (which ive already told you multiple times) LEARN TO READ.
I HAVE ANOTHER CARE WITH MORE HP AND ITS RWD THAT I WILL BE DRIVING IN THE WINTER.
why would i re-raise the coils...?
whats the point in driving two diff cars in the winter.
the tc will sit in the garage while my other car gets driven.
*sigh*
idk why im even wasting my time.
10-29-2008, 05:31 PM
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you dont fishtale and getting out of parkin spots is easy if you know how to drive RWD, i came from driving 4 RWD cars before i got my tC so i feel im better at RWD.
and again bringing up how low my car is...
thats completely irrelevant to this thread.
this thread was about fast cars and somehow its turned into try to rag on my coils.
hey dumbasss. THEYRE COILOVERS, THEYRE FKIN ADJUSTABLE
i wanted to go slammed for this season just when i put them on.
next year they will be raised up because my rims wont allow me to be tucked and ill be autoxing.
o and btw.
ive never scraped my rear lip on anything...
ever.
and again bringing up how low my car is...
thats completely irrelevant to this thread.
this thread was about fast cars and somehow its turned into try to rag on my coils.
hey dumbasss. THEYRE COILOVERS, THEYRE FKIN ADJUSTABLE
i wanted to go slammed for this season just when i put them on.
next year they will be raised up because my rims wont allow me to be tucked and ill be autoxing.
o and btw.
ive never scraped my rear lip on anything...
ever.
10-29-2008, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
you dont fishtale and getting out of parkin spots is easy if you know how to drive RWD, i came from driving 4 RWD cars before i got my tC so i feel im better at RWD.
and again bringing up how low my car is...
thats completely irrelevant to this thread.
this thread was about fast cars and somehow its turned into try to rag on my coils.
hey dumbasss. THEYRE COILOVERS, THEYRE FKIN ADJUSTABLE
i wanted to go slammed for this season just when i put them on.
next year they will be raised up because my rims wont allow me to be tucked and ill be autoxing.
o and btw.
ive never scraped my rear lip on anything...
ever.
and again bringing up how low my car is...
thats completely irrelevant to this thread.
this thread was about fast cars and somehow its turned into try to rag on my coils.
hey dumbasss. THEYRE COILOVERS, THEYRE FKIN ADJUSTABLE
i wanted to go slammed for this season just when i put them on.
next year they will be raised up because my rims wont allow me to be tucked and ill be autoxing.
o and btw.
ive never scraped my rear lip on anything...
ever.
10-29-2008, 05:41 PM
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yea, i dont want to take 80MPP turns RIGHT NOW.
thats why ill be raising it up and adjusting them.
i know theyre not good for handling right now and ive never said they are and will not argue with anyone that tells me they arent. because i already know...
ive been stuck in plenty of spaces in my RWD car. and ive gotten out of ever single one.
i think its a personal preference thing, and ive got waaay more experience driving RWD then FWD so that helps too.
thats why ill be raising it up and adjusting them.
i know theyre not good for handling right now and ive never said they are and will not argue with anyone that tells me they arent. because i already know...
ive been stuck in plenty of spaces in my RWD car. and ive gotten out of ever single one.
i think its a personal preference thing, and ive got waaay more experience driving RWD then FWD so that helps too.
10-29-2008, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
yea, i dont want to take 80MPP turns RIGHT NOW.
thats why ill be raising it up and adjusting them.
i know theyre not good for handling right now and ive never said they are and will not argue with anyone that tells me they arent. because i already know...
ive been stuck in plenty of spaces in my RWD car. and ive gotten out of ever single one.
i think its a personal preference thing, and ive got waaay more experience driving RWD then FWD so that helps too.
thats why ill be raising it up and adjusting them.
i know theyre not good for handling right now and ive never said they are and will not argue with anyone that tells me they arent. because i already know...
ive been stuck in plenty of spaces in my RWD car. and ive gotten out of ever single one.
i think its a personal preference thing, and ive got waaay more experience driving RWD then FWD so that helps too.
10-29-2008, 05:56 PM
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10-29-2008, 06:06 PM
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I like how some posted facts about Rado and disregarded others...
The truth is, while certainly there advantages to RWD and AWD, that does not make FWD useless. For one, it DOES take more skill to control FWD. I'd rather be a fantastic driver in a slightly disadvantaged car than a crappy one in a car that does all the work for me. I've been to countless Time Attack events where guys in Corvette's, Sti's, and Evo's got spanked by drivers in FWD cars. It's all about skill.
That having been said, even though Rado usually doesn't beat the BEST AWD or RWD cars when it competes, the reality is he beats a LOT of them. Take the Super Lap Battle Event earlier this year:
http://www.superstreetonline.com/eve...tle/index.html
His lap time was 1:29.550. The top AWD car posted a 1:28.185
Some other times from the RWD unlimited class? 350Z = 1:31.68. Another 350Z posted a time of 1:31.17.
Not only that, Rado was only a tenth of a second behind having the FASTEST lap time of ANY production vehicle at the Redline Time Attack event in Nashville, Tenn.
http://scionundergroundpodcast.wordp...does-it-again/
So once again, RWD & AWD = slight advantage, but FWD worthless? Hardly...
The truth is, while certainly there advantages to RWD and AWD, that does not make FWD useless. For one, it DOES take more skill to control FWD. I'd rather be a fantastic driver in a slightly disadvantaged car than a crappy one in a car that does all the work for me. I've been to countless Time Attack events where guys in Corvette's, Sti's, and Evo's got spanked by drivers in FWD cars. It's all about skill.
That having been said, even though Rado usually doesn't beat the BEST AWD or RWD cars when it competes, the reality is he beats a LOT of them. Take the Super Lap Battle Event earlier this year:
http://www.superstreetonline.com/eve...tle/index.html
His lap time was 1:29.550. The top AWD car posted a 1:28.185
Some other times from the RWD unlimited class? 350Z = 1:31.68. Another 350Z posted a time of 1:31.17.
Not only that, Rado was only a tenth of a second behind having the FASTEST lap time of ANY production vehicle at the Redline Time Attack event in Nashville, Tenn.
http://scionundergroundpodcast.wordp...does-it-again/
So once again, RWD & AWD = slight advantage, but FWD worthless? Hardly...
10-29-2008, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Soulquarian
I like how some posted facts about Rado and disregarded others...
The truth is, while certainly there advantages to RWD and AWD, that does not make FWD useless. For one, it DOES take more skill to control FWD. I'd rather be a fantastic driver in a slightly disadvantaged car than a crappy one in a car that does all the work for me. I've been to countless Time Attack events where guys in Corvette's, Sti's, and Evo's got spanked by drivers in FWD cars. It's all about skill.
That having been said, even though Rado usually doesn't beat the BEST AWD or RWD cars when it competes, the reality is he beats a LOT of them. Take the Super Lap Battle Event earlier this year:
http://www.superstreetonline.com/eve...tle/index.html
His lap time was 1:29.550. The top AWD car posted a 1:28.185
Some other times from the RWD unlimited class? 350Z = 1:31.68. Another 350Z posted a time of 1:31.17.
Not only that, Rado was only a tenth of a second behind having the FASTEST lap time of ANY production vehicle at the Redline Time Attack event in Nashville, Tenn.
http://scionundergroundpodcast.wordp...does-it-again/
So once again, RWD & AWD = slight advantage, but FWD worthless? Hardly...
The truth is, while certainly there advantages to RWD and AWD, that does not make FWD useless. For one, it DOES take more skill to control FWD. I'd rather be a fantastic driver in a slightly disadvantaged car than a crappy one in a car that does all the work for me. I've been to countless Time Attack events where guys in Corvette's, Sti's, and Evo's got spanked by drivers in FWD cars. It's all about skill.
That having been said, even though Rado usually doesn't beat the BEST AWD or RWD cars when it competes, the reality is he beats a LOT of them. Take the Super Lap Battle Event earlier this year:
http://www.superstreetonline.com/eve...tle/index.html
His lap time was 1:29.550. The top AWD car posted a 1:28.185
Some other times from the RWD unlimited class? 350Z = 1:31.68. Another 350Z posted a time of 1:31.17.
Not only that, Rado was only a tenth of a second behind having the FASTEST lap time of ANY production vehicle at the Redline Time Attack event in Nashville, Tenn.
http://scionundergroundpodcast.wordp...does-it-again/
So once again, RWD & AWD = slight advantage, but FWD worthless? Hardly...
10-29-2008, 06:57 PM
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And then how can we disregard Dan Gardner's tC? His is probably the closest a "regular" Scion can get to racing, and he just won the NASA Championship at Mid-Ohio. He beat RX-8's, 240z's, a GRIP of Mazda Miata's, a GRIP of BMW 325is, and a whole bunch of Mazda RX-7's.
http://nasachampionships.com/pdf/2008/Group%20J%20(PTC,%20PTD,%20PTE,%20PTF,%20SpecE30)%20-%20Sunday%20Main%20Race.html
So yeah... I have to disagree with the whole FWDFTLOMGBBQ!!111 stuff. If I had the choice between an AWD, RWD, or FWD tC I definitely wouldn't choose FWD, but that's a given.
The cost to turn a FWD car into a beast isn't as much as people say. For about 25k (including the price of a new tC), you can have a car making close to 600+hp AND still look nice. tC's are still practical for everyday driving unlike a 350z, and they aren't something only car guys would like to look at like Sti's and Evo's. Most girls love my tC. I don't know any "regular" girls that would even look twice at an Sti or an Evo.
http://nasachampionships.com/pdf/2008/Group%20J%20(PTC,%20PTD,%20PTE,%20PTF,%20SpecE30)%20-%20Sunday%20Main%20Race.html
So yeah... I have to disagree with the whole FWDFTLOMGBBQ!!111 stuff. If I had the choice between an AWD, RWD, or FWD tC I definitely wouldn't choose FWD, but that's a given.
The cost to turn a FWD car into a beast isn't as much as people say. For about 25k (including the price of a new tC), you can have a car making close to 600+hp AND still look nice. tC's are still practical for everyday driving unlike a 350z, and they aren't something only car guys would like to look at like Sti's and Evo's. Most girls love my tC. I don't know any "regular" girls that would even look twice at an Sti or an Evo.
