i just checked again and everything should be fine as far as the map goes but i didnt notice before that ther is some discrepancies on your fuel map i didnt catch befor, however that deals with high rpm high boost area of the map.....in that area you may run lean so be careful and let me know if the idle clears up....oh yeah double check your vac source to your fic.

 

oh and i sent you an email you can disregard - i thought you might check that before you logged on the the forums. but i reflashed my fic with .x300 and .z104 so i know they're good. i have a feeling its that MAF Fuel map (not the one where the clamp is set) - see what yours looks like.

 

maf map or fuel map? i would think it would be the 02 map instead but are you throwing any codes and if so what codes are you throwing. also open up your fic program and open up your map. look up to the tool bar and click on set up, tell me whats in your 02 box and your maf box. in the 02 box your load input should be set to map and mode should be set to Voltage. your MAF box load should be set to MAF and mode should be set to Voltage with a max voltage clamp of 4.5. did you let it idle for 20min and drive for 20 extra min?

 

no i dont think its driveable honestly - but i did notice a problem i think - its not reading any O2 voltage when i open up the gauges on my software when the engine is running. is that normal?

and its the fuel map that runs off the maf sensor im talking about - i think its supposed to be all zeros.

i think the 02 is the problem tho - its not reading any voltage

if all else fails could you just send me the map youre running on your car?

 

nevermind i just read that the O2 values are irrelevant in that gauge window thing...

this is so frustrating!!! haha

let me try your map and see what happens

 

alright i know what your talking about i think.......you wont read anything with the fic "wideband gauge" because its not hooked up. you dont need it for the fic to do its job, that gauge is an extra feature so that you can datalog your wideband. now if your talking about in the little box that says o2 while you have the gauge feature open its not going to read anything either. so yes that is normal.

the fuel map runs off of the onboard MAP sensor on the fic.

but yeah ill go ahead and send you my map.

 

yeah i know the fuel map runs off the onboard MAP sensor - but my tuner also has a fuel map that uses the MAF sensor. you can get to it by clicking that little graph icon in the upper right hand corner of the MAP Fuel map

Ill try your map and well see what happens

 

ok your MAF fuel map has all zeros - so that's why the map you sent me didnt work.

i put your map in and it idled smoothly but i didn't get a chance to drive it around.

i'm pretty sure i'm gonna have to go back to the tuner and get him to redo the fuel map. if i do that your MAF map and O2 map should be fine right? I hope so because he obviously does not know how to do those.

or maybe everything will be perfect with your map... haha

 

huh? i filled in the maf map!!! idk what happened, ill resend you your old map that i updated again.

the o2 map is primarily for idle and cruise, the maf should stay the same though.

 

its possible that i didnt close out the program and sent it to you befor i saved it. if you close out the program it will auto save all the changes you have done so like i said it could be i didnt save it before i sent it......

 

hahaha no were talking about two different things...

open your map (imadork.fi6)
click on the F icon to open the MAP Fuel Map
now click on the tiny little icon just under the Red X you would click if you wanted to close the window
this will bring you to the Fuel map that runs off MAF Load - which on imadork.fi6 is all zeros

my MAF Load fuel map has values all over it - and my MAP fuel map is way different than yours

note that this is a completely different map than the MAF voltage map

 

oh and one more question - i noticed the values in your MAF map on imadork.fi6 are slightly different than the recommended setup table on the aem power forum - did you tweak it a little bit?

 

ther is no other icon under any red x, on version 2.01 of the fic program when you open up the fuel map you get two fuel maps......garret (TheFantasticG) has the same thing but only one of them is filled out. open up your fic program and click on the tool bar wher it says about, tell me the version your running. on 3.04 you dont have additional fuel maps just the one that runs off of the internal map sensor. what im trying to get at is you may have two icons to open up the fic program one of them is 2.01 (or older version) the other being 3.04. you can have both downloaded on you computer and use both of them.

 

that part of the map i got from mr. meaty (phil) it was tuned on his car and has served me quit well.

 

now i understand a little better why i didnt see anyvalues before, your tuner was using an older version which is much different than the latest. before you had two fuel maps but it has been done away with. I also cant see if ther is any other fuel maps besides the one that is run by the MAP sensor. I have an idea though the two "fuel" maps you have are having a conflick and one of them needs to go in order for it to work right. it could be that both maps are trying to add additional fuel (insainly rich) when only one of them needs to be. so id suggest getting rid of one of them and tell me how it runs. Btw is my map working though (imadork.fi6)?

 

yeah im running 3.04 - thats weird haha

im about to take my car out and see how it runs with imadork.fi6

but i think youre right about running the two fuel maps - it doesn't work in the long run and im going to take your map to the tuner and get him to clean up ONLY the MAP fuel map

if i were to just delete the MAF fuel map on my tune, it wont run because the MAP fuel map alone does not pull enough fuel at idle

but it idles fine with imadork.fi6 - well see

 

alright i just took it out - it runs perfectly man

it stays right around 12.0 at WOT and then right around redline it goes into the 11's

it hits 10psi perfectly - and no more stutters at partial throttle or at redline like before

i only have one question - why is my UEGO reading 10.0 at partial throttle in boost? i mean its not stuttering or anything so it cant be that rich. and i just replaced the sensor so i know thats not it. does yours do that?

 

its one of the odds and ends that needs to be worked out, im thinking it has to do with the fuel map and o2 map, at some point your going to run into a transition between open loop and closed loop, its at this transition when your 02 map is still trying to get everything running at a precise afr while at the same time your fuel map is starting to add additional fuel. I could be wrong on this but its my best guess. ill prolly play around with my o2 map in that area and see what i can come up with.

 

ok i was just wondering if the same thing is happening to you - ill try pulling some fuel at like 4-5 psi and the lower rpms and well see what happens - but the O2 map should be fine i think - its set to be around 12.0

 

yeah its either one map or the other your going to need to pull some fuel out, i was going to try my 02 map in that area.