Im contemplating using a Garrett TB0363 on my turbo project for my 07 tc. Dont plan on doing any kind of extreme boost like some of you Just plan on running with the stock 7 psi wastegate on the unit. Hoping to make 200-215 to the wheels. The unit has been fully rebuilt and is in prestine condition, just wondering if anyone has tried a unit similar to this on our vehicle? I searched through here and really couldnt find anything - being the reason i am posting. Also with 7 psi boost has anyone tested a non-intercooled setup in this range? Heavily considering doing this as to go with re-circ BOV and go for stealth approach I know detonation can become a problem at higher boost levels with no i/c but at 7psi ive seen kits that come w/o i/c so i was wondering how it would come out. Below are the specs on this unit. The unit is from like a late 80's volvo I believe?

Garrett model number: TBO363 (T3 series turbo)

OE part #: 466672-2

Compressor Trim: 50

Compressor housing A/R: .42

Turbine housing A/R: .48

Internal Wastegate: Yes

Water cooled: Yes

Wastegate setting: 7 psi

Let me know what you think! Negative(but constructive) criticism is wholly welcomed.

 

Too small - look at the compressor map:



You'll be at the end of the efficiency of the turbo if you plan on making 215whp.

Here's a good site to find out what turbo trim you should use:

http://www.not2fast.com/turbo/glossary/turbo_calc.shtml

 

Thanks a ton for the help, btw a very great tool there, i thank you greatly after setting up appropriate parameters for 07 tc it seems a t3 would work but a unit with 60 trim would be desireable such as a unit with below specs?

Garrett model number: TBO344 (T3 series turbo)

Compressor Trim: 60

Compressor housing A/R: .60

Turbine housing A/R: .48

 

Yes that would be better.. but I would take advantage of our large 2.4L engine and up the hotside to a .63 AR. If you want to retain a quick spool then opt for a Stage I or II wheel instead of III.

Actually the best small T3 turbo would be the Super60. I remember a Saturn owner (1.9L) had this turbo with a .48 hotside and Stage II wheel and got roughly 220whp at 6psi.

 

I just checked and funy enough he has a .63 for the same price Said person would be a friend of mine in Ohio who finds these old turbos and rebuilds them than resales. As for the stage I wheel ill have to speak to him about it, I am very much a mechanical perosn i would say and wholly understand all other parameters but not what you mean by stage I, II, or III, a quick explanation would be great im sure i could figure it out

 

Here are the sizes of the exhaust wheels so you can reference - btw these are in inches.

STANDARD 1.898" 2.319"
STAGE II 2.122" 2.559"
STAGE III 2.229" 2.559"

Since this is the exhaust side we're talking about - the larger number is for the inducer - the smaller is exducer.

The larger the wheel, the more HP - but the more lag.

 

Ahh yes - i just spoke with him and heard the same thing - stage is a quick way to ref the exhaust wheel size without giving exact dimension Makes since now. As for the intercooler - what would your honest opinion be? scrap the idea of the stealth setup and go i/c? or maybe with water/meth inject it would be possible to go no i/c, esp if no plans for more boost.

 

I would definitely get an IC. If you want stealth, you can have someone build you a water-to-air intercooler. However these require maintenance on your part.

I would do a front mount air-to-air IC and give it a light coat of black. Water/meth injection also requires more maintenance.. it's good for higher hp applications. It's not worth the trouble in my book - but everyone's different.

 

sounds like a very good idea - the heat formed by the turbo even at low psi is tremendous so it does make since just thought i would ask someone else's opinion to urge me in the right direction. I thank you a ton for all the info, ill probably have the turbo on its way soon and all other parts ordered shortly, just still trying to decide between emanage ultimate and aem f/ic. It seems right now f/ic def has the lead considering no map sensor needed for proper opperation and better control under w0t it seems.

 

Talk to Paul at www.dezod.com - he seems to love the FIC and should be able to help you with any questions regarding that.

 

Wondeful, im so glad i got a response to everything, the "other" forum i posted my question in, 10 people replied in under 5 min with nothing to do with my question, just saying a t3 wont work, get a kit made for our car or youre stupid. Wonderful how people just because they prob had no idea what i was talking about just wanted to act mean, ok /rant thanks for all the help

 

does your said friedn rebuild mitsubishi turbos like the 16G or the 20G????

 

Go here.. http://www.turbochargers.com/store/p...products_id=68

 

I was hoping for a alternative to turbochargers.com... hopefully a better price too!

 

You're not going to find much better prices than that unless it's used with no warranty. Sorry.

 

Holy crap that's a tiny turbo.

 

Rofl@ that calculator. Yes it works for a general ballpark, but put in stock specs and put the AFR to 1:1. Lmfao, 1700 hp

 

Who runs a 1:1 afr?? you're supposed to put in around 11 or 10:1

With any calculator if you put in ridiculous inputs you'll get ridiculous outputs..

:sigh:

 

Yeah I know, I just find it funny that the lower the AFR, the higher the power. And 10:1 isn't going to result in more power than 17:1, granted with 17:1 you're going to blow up.

 

It's a freakin calculator - give it a break. It's not the bible but it is one of the best calculators out there.

Like I said before - put in stupid inputs and you get stupid outputs.

And yes - 10:1 will make more power than 17:1 (assuming you don't blow up) because you need fuel to make power. Remember it's fuel + air + spark.