scikotictc232

can the profec b spec II have the ability for boost by gear ? or the ultimate ?

gingles

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to my knowledge no but ive never searched so its a possibility....in first gear i hit 5 psi 2nd is 12 and 3rd is 16

scikotictc232

how is that ? ^

SoFloTC

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Ultimate. Delete the speed cut and raise Redline are both allowed on the Ultimate and not on the FI/C,
and u can partial throttle tune the Ultimate without removing your O2 sensors. I did it.

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rhythmnsmoke

He said the Ultimate, not the blue. To which would make your statement false, as you can do that on the Ultimate too.


Also to add, supposedly if you pick up a Boost Solenoid, and hook it up to the Ultimate, there is a map that you can use that basically turns the Ultimate into a Boost Controller as well. I haven't tried mine yet, but will soon as I get everything together.

In the end, Ultimate > F/IC.

rhythmnsmoke

The "I have a problem with my F/IC" threads that pop up about twice a week would contradict that statement....

rhythmnsmoke

Amen....

paul_dezod

The problem with this is the fact there are only a hand full of tuners whom I encountered that actually understand how the unit works. Therefore, you get lots of people with shotty or half-assed tunes.

rhythmnsmoke

I was just teasing....hehee

gingles

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^^^Exactly....GReddy ftw. Oh and Paul I got my intake temp sensor reading. Just didn't have a parameter set right.

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DezodDon

Seeing the two units I like AEM. There is a lot of support to be had on the AEM forums if you care to read.
There is little to no technical support when it comes to GReddy so there is much trial and error.

If this were me I would get an AEM FI/C and a plug and play harness.

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stillettoDSM

What comes with the Auto Kit from Dezod? Ultimate?

rhythmnsmoke

How you figure? You can subscribe to a GReddy forum/email distribution list, and I get them all the time. TONS of people helping with the GReddy box. And the AEM is new to the tC platform, highly doubt your going to find more support for it for the tC than a GReddy unit.

There is a reason why the F/IC is compared to the Blue box, and not the Ultimate. It simply does not have the same features as an Ultimate does, and is more close to the Blue box. It's slightly better than the blue box from what I hear, but it does not have what the Ultimate can provide. It's a middle of the road between the Ultimate and the Blue.

DezodDon

I'm going on Customer support and experience between the two units. It's my opinion that the unit is much better. With the constant updates and support from other members it's nice to have a link directly with AEM through their forums.
The AEM FI/C has a built in map sensor good for 25 lbs of boost. You would have to purchase that separate from GReddy then wire it in.

AEM FIC can accept a 5 volt input from any wide band unit and data log it. If you run a pressure sensor and a wide band with the AFR harness with the GReddy units the information is skewed and you get a fatal error. That is stated in the manual.

So it would seem in my eyes that the AEM unit while newer, is still a little more superior with capabilities that really matter when tuning a car.

To each their own however. Cheers

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rhythmnsmoke

Albeit you have to purchase separately, there is no "wire it in" sorta speak. It's plug and play.



There is no need to run both a pressure sensor and a Wideband input, as the two maps have different functions with the Ultimate. You are not suppose to run both with the Ultimate. For the PS...used to tune off of boost instead of throttle. For the Wideband input, simply for Auto tuning. Where you can just plug what you want the A/F ratio to actually be at Set RPM's. It also states that you should use this for preliminary tuning, and then fine tune using the other maps, not run them both.


AEM unit does not have the key Elements to run for "Racing". So, for street sure it's fine and dandy. But for Racing, it lacks. Ultimate has the ability to Increase your Revlimiter/Redline as well as Remove the factory Speed Cut. F/IC can not do this. This is the reason why PTuning runs the Ultimate on their Championship TA tC. It's the next best thing to running a full Standalone without running a Standalone.

SoFloTC

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^ also has 2step

DezodDon

I agree with you on raising the redline which is nice but as far as being able to scale in a map that is driveable without hickups I like the functions of the AEM FIC.

To each their own.

scikotictc232

i never thought this one would be so hard. im not looking to increase the redline or the speed cut. until the day comes wee i top the car out at the strip than I will but by that time I am sure ill be stand alone. And about the redline, I am not sure how well the 2az does to being over revved. I do have an .82 A/R turbine so to take advantage of being in boost a bit longer could be worth it. what are the hickups every one is talking bout ? cause I can get either one with a pnp for the same price.

rhythmnsmoke

THAT'S IT! Lol.... I knew I was leaving out something and I couldn't think of it for the life of me.

scikotictc232

Travis, How do you like messing with the GReddy Ult?
I plan on having a Pro Tune it and then messing with the Two Step and all that isht myself IF I WENT THAT WAY.

Not sure yet both sides seem promising.

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