Greddy Turbo Kit on my A/T Scion TC... i lost 2 a RalliArt
04-09-2007, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by fox
I don't know about everyone else but i just had my Greddy kit tuned this week at 7psi. I have an AutoMeter wideband gauge and boost gauge. My boost controller is an APEXi AVC-R and my numbers on a Dyno Dynamics were 246WHP...at 7 psi. They up'd it to 8 psi but because i'm running Basic E-manage w/ 440cc injectors, it got 259.9WHP. My injectors were running at 100% at 8psi. They tuned it back down to 7 psi and i tell you, it feels great. Just thought i would put my cars info to show what is attainable with this setup. But...i have a manual, if it's an auto, i've seen some poor numbers!
Get bigger injectors...
04-09-2007, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by fox
I don't know about everyone else but i just had my Greddy kit tuned this week at 7psi. I have an AutoMeter wideband gauge and boost gauge. My boost controller is an APEXi AVC-R and my numbers on a Dyno Dynamics were 246WHP...at 7 psi. They up'd it to 8 psi but because i'm running Basic E-manage w/ 440cc injectors, it got 259.9WHP. My injectors were running at 100% at 8psi. They tuned it back down to 7 psi and i tell you, it feels great. Just thought i would put my cars info to show what is attainable with this setup. But...i have a manual, if it's an auto, i've seen some poor numbers!
Get bigger injectors...
I don't know...everyone tells me that i'm going to want more power but i don't race this car. I like where it's at...fornow i guess. I show this car so i don't know...maybe 
04-09-2007, 03:25 PM
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You'll want more power. I don't understand how you have it at 7psi with an 8psi spring? I thought boost controllers couldn't drop lower than what the spring was.
BTW, my injectors were running at 90% at 8psi. So I would recommend to anyone to get bigger injectors if they ever plan to up the boost on a greddy.
BTW, my injectors were running at 90% at 8psi. So I would recommend to anyone to get bigger injectors if they ever plan to up the boost on a greddy.
04-09-2007, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by etsnet
You'll want more power. I don't understand how you have it at 7psi with an 8psi spring? I thought boost controllers couldn't drop lower than what the spring was.
BTW, my injectors were running at 90% at 8psi. So I would recommend to anyone to get bigger injectors if they ever plan to up the boost on a greddy.
BTW, my injectors were running at 90% at 8psi. So I would recommend to anyone to get bigger injectors if they ever plan to up the boost on a greddy.
04-10-2007, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by blown_xa
Originally Posted by etsnet
You'll want more power. I don't understand how you have it at 7psi with an 8psi spring? I thought boost controllers couldn't drop lower than what the spring was.
BTW, my injectors were running at 90% at 8psi. So I would recommend to anyone to get bigger injectors if they ever plan to up the boost on a greddy.
BTW, my injectors were running at 90% at 8psi. So I would recommend to anyone to get bigger injectors if they ever plan to up the boost on a greddy.
You have an xA, I'm still trying to figure out how that = "GReddy kit specs for the tC".
04-10-2007, 12:37 AM
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Yeah are you talking about the tc kit or the xb kit? 
Look at all the ads, they even advertise 8.5psi. Here's just one place http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/21872 . It's got to be just for the auto and something is making it lose boost.
If it is running 5psi (which I don't think) and my gauge is reading 8psi cuz it's wrong then I put down 245wph on 5psi.
Look at all the ads, they even advertise 8.5psi. Here's just one place http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/21872 . It's got to be just for the auto and something is making it lose boost.If it is running 5psi (which I don't think) and my gauge is reading 8psi cuz it's wrong then I put down 245wph on 5psi.
04-10-2007, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by etsnet
If it is running 5psi (which I don't think) and my gauge is reading 8psi cuz it's wrong then I put down 245wph on 5psi.
Which is NOT going to happen...
04-10-2007, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by etsnet
If it is running 5psi (which I don't think) and my gauge is reading 8psi cuz it's wrong then I put down 245wph on 5psi.
Which is NOT going to happen...
220whp maaaaybe but not no 245whp so obviously my gauge is right and someone is wrong or greddy has a problem. All in all I think it has to do with the auto tc not being able to boost and stay at 8psi. Why that is I have no idea cuz I don't know that much yet about turbos.
04-10-2007, 02:07 AM
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wow, greddy turbo and you lost to a mitsu lancer ralliart...
anyway, no, it is not a tranny problem so long as it is still shifting and not slipping, so no need to spend money on the zpi valve body upgrade. unless you plan to exceed the approximately 250 whp it takes to make the tranny slip.
i would maybe take it to a different shop and have it tuned, tested, dyno'ed, inspected etc to see what they think.
anyway, maybe yeah, you need bigger injectors if you don't have them, and a greddy pressure sensor with a boost controller to make sure your tc is going to push that full 8.5 psi. maybe an aem tru-boost.
sounds like you are suffering from bad tune, lack of proper hardware, bad tune/install and yes, some english lessons would do you well. not to dump on you, but if you want to ask for peoples help, you should consider taking the time to clearly communicate your problem using precision in language so that people who are nice enough to take the time and try to come up with the solution to your problem don't misunderstand what you are trying to explain and either mis-inform you inadvertanly, or maybe just say "screw this, if he doesn't know how to ask a question, i'm not going to try and figure out an answer for him."
how would you feel if the answers to your questions were "yeah, so u ned to git a grdy press sensor, luk for a leek in your hood and you gotto vac the connutions."
anyway, no, it is not a tranny problem so long as it is still shifting and not slipping, so no need to spend money on the zpi valve body upgrade. unless you plan to exceed the approximately 250 whp it takes to make the tranny slip.
i would maybe take it to a different shop and have it tuned, tested, dyno'ed, inspected etc to see what they think.
anyway, maybe yeah, you need bigger injectors if you don't have them, and a greddy pressure sensor with a boost controller to make sure your tc is going to push that full 8.5 psi. maybe an aem tru-boost.
sounds like you are suffering from bad tune, lack of proper hardware, bad tune/install and yes, some english lessons would do you well. not to dump on you, but if you want to ask for peoples help, you should consider taking the time to clearly communicate your problem using precision in language so that people who are nice enough to take the time and try to come up with the solution to your problem don't misunderstand what you are trying to explain and either mis-inform you inadvertanly, or maybe just say "screw this, if he doesn't know how to ask a question, i'm not going to try and figure out an answer for him."
how would you feel if the answers to your questions were "yeah, so u ned to git a grdy press sensor, luk for a leek in your hood and you gotto vac the connutions."
04-10-2007, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by blown_xa
Originally Posted by etsnet
You'll want more power. I don't understand how you have it at 7psi with an 8psi spring? I thought boost controllers couldn't drop lower than what the spring was.
BTW, my injectors were running at 90% at 8psi. So I would recommend to anyone to get bigger injectors if they ever plan to up the boost on a greddy.
BTW, my injectors were running at 90% at 8psi. So I would recommend to anyone to get bigger injectors if they ever plan to up the boost on a greddy.
You have an xA, I'm still trying to figure out how that = "GReddy kit specs for the tC".
04-10-2007, 02:29 AM
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There is no way you lost to a lancer rallyart .......stock. A guy I used to work with had one and that car is almost 100% same speed as the tC with my draxas exhaust (but I added 40lbs of matting to the whole car also). You sure he didnt have a turbo or something? With my s/c Ill blow the rallyart away ... I thought you were talking about the new galant rallyart
04-10-2007, 02:30 AM
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I'm talking about real live results that I have witnessed... IN PERSON. Seen 2 tC's with the Greddy Turbo kit installed, Dyno'd at around 180whp. No adjustment to the tune at all, right out of the box. Pressure was reading right around 5psi, right on the frikken dyno screen. And it wasnt a crap Dyno.
04-10-2007, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by blown_xa
I'm talking about real live results that I have witnessed... IN PERSON. Seen 2 tC's with the Greddy Turbo kit installed, Dyno'd at around 180whp. No adjustment to the tune at all, right out of the box. Pressure was reading right around 5psi, right on the frikken dyno screen. And it wasnt a crap Dyno.
Ahh, I don't believe the pressure reads on the "dyno screen", at least no dyno I've seen.
AFR will read, mph will read, rpms will read, but never seen the boost psi read. What dyno was it?
04-10-2007, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by blown_xa
I beat one of those tC's with the Greddy kit with my normally aspirated xA and 25 shot. That's no lie.
04-10-2007, 02:43 AM
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So go ahead and tell me I'm lying. Cause this forum sucks now because everyone thinks they are right, even if they arn't. Except me
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