cmcpride

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im running 9.5 s/c with emanage ult and meth kit, how much timing are you guys pulling and or are you able to pull timing with emanage ult, the reason im asking i was looking at my tune map , but no signs of any timing map almost as if my tunner didn't use a timing map. does anyone know if you need to pull timing , my understanding cooler temp means you sould be able to tune safer and adjust timing for more power.....

cmcpride

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wow nothing, nothing yet ;

NotAStockScion

you should only have to pull a couple degrees up top.. if any

cmcpride

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I was always under the understanding that with cooler intake temp you could pull timeing safer for more power.

unxpectederror

um you don't get power by pulling timing. from what i know you do it to keep your engine safe from knock. knock is most prevalent in the summer time when temps are hotter out... also you posted in the wrong section thus why your getting no responses

cmcpride

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Drivetrain and power is it?

unxpectederror

your supposed to have posted this in the forced induction section as this regards tuning for that application.

blown_xa

if your factory ecu has been flash (TRD) it initially has gobs of timing retard. You need to start from scratch and get it on the dyno. Every car is different really

cmcpride

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yes it has a trd flash, and emanage ult .the first time i took my tc in for a tune they had problems with timing , tuner asked if my harness was installed correctly, and yes dezod plugnplay . so i thing all they did was play with a/f. no timing. so you are saying a conflict between trd flash and emanage? should get a oem ecu with no flash?

unxpectederror

yes there are conflicts with tuning and using a trd flashed ecu... most people switch back to a stock ecu when tuning with a piggy back.

zpipow

. So u have the trd reflash and the e m ult running together? If so there's your prob there.and I was wondering what did you put down?and with timeing you pull to pervent pinging your motor to it's death whitch temp really don't have anything to do with it you don't want to get it retuned every summer winter but to be safe I would pull around 3 degrees depends on your af. And how much boost but your tuner should have seen your prob and should have told. U about timeing

cmcpride

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he did but he said not to worry about it ,but i had a feeling about it , but since a was already there i just got it tuned, if i install a oem ecu with out trd flash get it tuned do you think ill gain some power and maybe better gas milage,i was getting about 327 miles with a full tank before i installed emange and meth kit. now im getting 200-230 if that

zpipow

you should get more power . with takeing out the trd refl i think that would hurt you running it with the em ult but as far as the gas eather your keeping your foot in it or your tuner has it way to rich are you smelling gas at all when you drive or any smoke out the ex do u have a wide band i would like to know your af if you do if not my guess its way to rich

cmcpride

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Well it does smell like it's running rich. And my foot always been heavy even before tune

zpipow

well if you are smelling gas thans prob way to rich what are you running turbo or supercharger

cmcpride

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S/c 9.5 and at times 12 psi.

zpipow

what did you put down

cmcpride

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my bad since you asked turbo or supercharger , my reply was s/c , i tuned my tc a few times once with a 9.5 psi pulley and other time with a 12 psi pulley . i some times swap pulleys, and tune, 12psi most weekens. daily 9.5psi.. but at the most part. im running rich a/f reading not sure. ill ask for my tune copy .

cmcpride

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im saveing money for a tune soon, with a oem ecm. but i hope my tuner gives me a fair price for full new tune. its so expensive getting a full new tune from scratch......

zpipow

i know what you mean my last tune was 700 but i dont know if you should take it to the same guy it sounds like he was a little ife