release2063

im a noob to the supercharger i havent bought one yet but i was wondering if you can use a cai on the supercharger and if not then why and if so which one can you use i have a k&n but i have someone selling there car and they want me to buy their injen cai which would be better because my k&n brackets broke and K&n wont replace it and it makes less horsepower than the injen

KINGxOFxSKA

To answer your question...

Yes you can attach the lower mount part of the k&n CAI (for example) to the supercharger. I think some cutting and slight modification has to be done on the tube of your existing CAI piping but thats about it.

deathbyc4

you looking for hp gain or just like the supercharger?

kocho333

correct me if im wrong, but i BELIEVE the supercharger will perform just as well if not better with a short ram, and also the injen makes better numbers than the k&n as a full kit, i dont think it would make a difference just cuz of the cold air section....either way would you have to do cutting and modifications to the piping before the MAF, im goin S/C and im just waiting for someone to make a working short ram that might so improvments and is tested, some guys are having issues with their custom setups.....

06SuperWhite_SoCal_tC

The HKS Suction kit fits, I believe. But the ammount of performance your going to gain by adding the S/C will make up for not having a CAI. You get about 60whp by adding the S/C, and about 5-7 with the CAI, which gain do you preffer?

06SuperWhite_SoCal_tC

Im just saying the only way to go with the S/C is custom, so just install the s/c and worry about a different intake system later.

WeDriveScions

Bah, skip the S/C, run a Turbocharger, save your money and get more HP than EITHER the CAI or the overpriced TRD booster thingy.

You "Can" run a CAI with a Supercharger, but it will just add lag and won't do much for you... If you really want a S/C, skip the intake, save your money and buy a S/C when you can.

A Turbocharger is cheaper and you get more HP

release2063

im getting an injen cai but im wating to get a supercharger bc its an automatic the turbo would need tranny work sais zpi so i figure about 260 is good for me after i install mmw header draxas exhaust port and polishe head with over sized valves regrind the cam pulleys and some suspension work also

06SuperWhite_SoCal_tC

If your shooting for 260whp supercharged on a auto tranny, good luck, and it would be a first, not even a manual has reached 260 yet. Though im sure kytc is there already.

AndrewGene

tranny work only needs to be done on an auto from zpi only if you get the stage 1. I am looking into the stage 0 for my auto and i'm going to go stage 1 after i save up a little money since they now have the auto 0 to 1 upgrade. (Tranny work is done during the upgrade.) Please correct me if i'm wrong...

TurboCustomz

What breaks on an auto above 250 hp? I hear about NEEDING these tranny upgrades but I have NEVER heard of anyone having problems with the auto tranny yet. Just curious.

release2063

you also have to tune the turbo more than once, and there is alot more stuff going wrong with the turbo and not the supercharger and plus youve got the power off the line for the eighth and the quarter not the street really dont care bout the street cuz all i do is get tickets from even driving normal so screw cops ill stay at the track

cessblood

Yeah I agree with you about getting tickets lol

release2063

i think i can easily get 260 with a automatic trany if not then at least a manual could reach this at some point with all of these mods,
this is what i figure and it could be more it could be less but why not set your goals high

port the head 5 angle job, with bigger valves and better springs locks and locators, made out of titanium makes it lighter which ultimately speeds up faster from weighing less in the internals , it is supposed to add maybee 20 to 35 hp not sure if it is right but we'll see it is about 1500 for a local, from zpi the stage 2 is $2200 and it is only a 3 angle (a little tip is the more angles the smoother and the smoother the better the flow means more air)

port the intake manifold with some sand paper maybee an extra 5 to 10 hp do it yourself for about $5 to $10 bucks

add the bigger throttle body going from 35mm (i think) the bigger one is 65mm from alphawerks about 10 hp about $450 depending where you get it

bigger injectors from the supercharger you get bigger ones but not much bigger they go from 350 to 410 but you can buy the 550cc injectors you can never go wrong with more fuel to the fire with forced induction about $450

cam regrind about 10 to 18 hp anywhere from $100 to $400

cam con another 10 to 13 hp is about $420 plus s/h

emanage ecu about 5 to 20 hp depending on how good of a tuner you have it varies from $800 to $1700

grounding voltage stabilizer helps with throttle response so not sure of a difference or not about $200

injen cai is usually about 9 hp but since it is going to be a little custom we'll just hold off on hp rating is about $240

monster motor works header and spipe is about 15 to 20 hp because they said 27 hp and 28lbs of tq but they dynoed it with and intake and with the wheels off so its not what they say but is still the best header you can get so far for $565 off precisiontunning.com and that is s/h added in, monstermotorworks wants $750 plus s/h

trd supercharger 50 to 70 hp $2800 to $3500 plus install

nst crank pulley 5 to 12 hp $160 plus s/h

nst water pump pulley is lighter so it takes less force to spin maybee 1 to 3 hp $88

nst alternater pulley is also lighter so it may be 1 hp not sure $88

nst super charger pulley thats lighter and instead of 6lbs of boost its 9.5lbs of boost adds any where from 45 to 65 hp $160 i think it might be $125 right now not sure

draxas cat back exhaust adds about 12 to 16 hp $750

ingalls engine dampener for more power to the ground $200

on a manual you can also add a light weight fly wheel for about 10 to 14 hp freed up $450

a stage 1 2 3 4 5 clutch to help with shifts to engage alot faster on the street i wouldnt add more than a stage 3 just because it gets hard to drive $300 to $600

short throw shifter so you can also improve your time at the track $150 to $450

now at the wheels we can only hope all of that can get the job done and there is one more thing that will protect you while going fast and that is the v1 valentine still number one in america today and for only 500 it can be yours today

Simplyscion

wow sweet bro, after taking averages of everything you are only in the hole for a cool $10,800...and no guarantee for 260whp...i see a problem with 2 things though, whats the point of running an emanage and a camcon at the same time? I had teh camcon its junk for f/i.

Jake_tC

Use Garage1217's cone intake setup. It shall be sweet.

But also, just some constructive criticism: try using periods and commas when you type. It sounds like one massive run-on sentence.

release2063

youve never heard of anyone doing it but someone will probably beat me to it. because im not the only one thinking you can do it so we'll see slowly but surely. it wont be 10,000 when you have sponsers and car clubs maybee about 5,600 the only reason im doing it is cause noone else is. they are doin turbos i'll show them up.





injen cai, hks titanium axle back, no resonator, mmw header, 160 degree thermostat, htech springs, enkie 18 inch gun metal rims, 225/40/18 kdw nt, weight reduction.

05-RS1

sorry to bust ur bubble, but my auto s/c got a questionable 170whp with header, s-pipe, and axleback. 260whp..i dunno w/ the auto.. of course its all very possible, but alot of money would be needed to put into that project.

release2063

time and money but that is not an issue

cessblood

Nice plan for an auto. I have been planning to boost up S/C to 260 hp also for a few months now and I have 5 speed standard, It's not that easy but you can do it.