http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...leId=108776#12

don't know if this is a re-post. very nice vid!

 

seen it already man. It is a good vid.

 

I dunno, I find the video sort of lame. How can you call a 15.1 quarter mile fast? I'm not bashing the s/c, but I think this vid seems too salesman like. I remember going to the dealer and the guys were talking up the tC saying it could beat this car and that car when I knew damn well it couldn't. The s/c is definitely a nice addition and probably brings the tC up to where it originally SHOULD have been power wise. And as it's been discussed before, the 15.1 quarter is probably very high. There are people with only shortshifters and lightened flywheels that run 15.2. With a decent driver, mid to high 14s should be possible.

 

^^My thoughts too. 15.1 seemed rather slow, compared to some N/A running 15.2. From reading the article, sounded like that had the hardest time just trying to drive it, let alone launch it. They did confirm that even with the LSD and 6 speed gear box (which is what we need), that the S/C tC clock the same #'s as the new Civic Si.

 

it also had some 18's on it, and every other option scion has to offer along with a $ tag of 26k.... at least its getting some good reviews over the civic

 

That was my other thoughts...What the same hell did they put on that car to get a price tag of 26k?


Take note: They paid $281 for a freakin Short Throw, that looks like stock height. No wonder the car is over 26k dollars. I didn't know the TRD exhaust was $525 either. These guys are ridiculous, they paid $225 for strut bar.



What the hell was the business operations manager thinking when he made this comment?

 

15.1 was done at california speedway judging by the video but with the proper driver and set-up a s/c tC should be able to hit mid to high 14's stock. the speedway isn't excatly a 1/4 mile track. when the speedway is closed they use the parking areas for 1/4 mile runs and solo2 events.

all the s/c needs is a lsd from trd which will help initial traction and cornering. also, the only way i can see the tC with a 6spd is if the next gen camry manual has a 6spd.

you figure manual tC with a s/c is still under $21k which isn't bad based on the performance numbers.

 

remember this is edmunds.com so they're basing the price when the customer buys the accessories from the dealer. not mooching for lower prices online.

 

the reviewer doesnt know that the civic si has been marked up to hell in recent weeks.
case in point

 

not bad but whats with the 34,028 price tag?

 

For that price, there better be a Kia Sephia on a tow hitch connected to it

 

That can't be so....$34k for an SI. Must be a mistake. Who in their right mind would pay that much.

Cars I think of that I can get for $34k.

Used Skyline GTR
350Z
Evo
Sti
the baddest tC built on these boards

To which all would wipe the Si.

 

a skyline gtr for 34k

 

Quite frankly I don't see whats so funny....

95' Nissan Skyline GT-R.
35,000 miles. Air filter, muffler, Boost Controller, Coilover, wheels shown in pic will be changed. Price $49,000.

And that's not even the oldest model. That was an R33. R32 is the older model and would obviously be cheaper. So, do yourself a little favor and read before trying to laugh at something.

TOYOTA SUPRA 94'
Yellow/ Black leather. Twin turbo, Blitz BO V, HKS intercooler Type S, Lowering springs, Tanabe Super Medalation exhaust, Basel 18" wheels, HKS Boost controller, Indoglow gaudes , VIS GT wing, Bomex full kit (shaved to body), Kouki turn signals (front), Kouki rear tail lights, carbon hood, Apex air filter. Greddy trubo timer, $24,500


PS..That price was for a Street Legal Skyline. Skyline GTS go for 20k, incase you didn't know that either.

 

Only few dealerships are doing that % mark up now. The people that have been buying them have been buying them around $20,000. Infact, the Honda dealership close to me has four of them now (has sold around five now but got some more in) has them for $19,990 and a few others for $21,000 but thats with other features installed.

So don't think everyone is doing this ridiculous mark up because they are not.

 

^^But to think anyone would pay even $25k for a Civic Si, is just down right ridiculous.

 

From what i've heard from friends, the lots that have the Si for $25,000 are just sitting there. Its kind of funny that they are doing that because majority have it priced where it should be. (how its priced by honda.com)

They can actually get in big trouble for doing this but shrug, all dealerships should have pricing correctly by springs once those that have the mark up realize they aren't selling cars.

 

Even an SRT-4 don't even cost that much.

Despite the new styling of the WRX it still comes in at under 25k.


IMPREZA WRX SEDAN
Starting at $24,995*

hmm...for 25k, do I want a Civic SI, or a 2.5L 230hp, 235ftlb WRX?

 

i don't know what that dealer is smokin. maybe a $2K mark up if its in short supply but $12k adendum for an Si. i didn't think honda was selling the elise. Si are not rare where only 500 will be shipped stateside. honda will sell about 20k Si a year.

 

almost all dealers in the socal area are selling the new civic SI for OVER

33k
yes you heard me

OVER $33,000.

my friend got quoted, BONE STOCK NO UPGRADES 33k
another place with some extra stuff, 1 or 2 things forgot but i was 39k

ridiculous, and some people do actually pay for that price. i've seen 1 person do it