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Old 05-17-2006, 03:44 PM
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I'm with Joe for now ... it just doesnt add up. I wait to see what ZPI has to say about it.
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I'd just like more specific information I guess. A turbo will not support more HP because of a crank pulley. A crank pulley (ones that yield gains) will only get the most power out of the motor as possible for the same HP level the turbo is at. I'm just curious if they're running stock ignition timing, and if the AFR is a little on the lean side.

BTW - 3 companies say that the 16G supports 320whp. The big 16G supports up to 380WHP. This is at over 20 PSI! The only 16G turbo that can support UP TO 400whp at OVER 20psi is a the Evo3 big 16G variant. That unit has a slighlty larger compressor wheel, and only one company says that supports up to 400whp. I don't think they're using the Evo3 variant, and I know they're not running 20psi.

I just want more specific numbers. This is simple math and it doesn't add up. I'd like to also know what kind of dyno this was done on and in what gear if at all possible.

Thanks guys. Again, not trying to flame, just trying to figure this one out.
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Day 3

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Old 05-17-2006, 05:35 PM
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Im assuming this dyno was done on a EGOjet.. I mean Dynojet..
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Old 05-17-2006, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: Jersey Mike boosted!!! 320whp 356ft lbs

Originally Posted by ZPIracing
I believe he is challenging Travis to a race at any track in the county looking for payback…..
I don't know who Travis is but he's going to get smoked by this car. I haven't seen anyone make this much torque off this kit.
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Old 05-17-2006, 05:50 PM
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I don't know who Travis is but he's going to get smoked by this car.
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Originally Posted by Joe_Dezod
The only 16G turbo that can support UP TO 400whp at OVER 20psi is a the Evo3 big 16G variant. That unit has a slighlty larger compressor wheel, and only one company says that supports up to 400whp. I don't think they're using the Evo3 variant, and I know they're not running 20psi.


Umm...All ZPI kits come with the BIG EVO III 16G. The largest 16G you can get. Does this help you?
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Yes it's a start. That tells me it flows up to 550CFM instead of 505CFM at about 22psi of boost.

Hopefully ZPI can answer the rest of the questions for me.
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Default Re: Jersey Mike boosted!!! 320whp 356ft lbs

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Originally Posted by ZPIracing
I believe he is challenging Travis to a race at any track in the county looking for payback…..
I don't know who Travis is but he's going to get smoked by this car. I haven't seen anyone make this much torque off this kit.


We beat the same car when both of us were N/A, and he had more power than us then too....
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Old 05-17-2006, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: Jersey Mike boosted!!! 320whp 356ft lbs

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We beat the same car when both of us were N/A, and he had more power than us then too....
Ah yes, that's when you hit the magical 1.5x 60' time..

If you want you can race him from a roll to elimate driver error..

You can't really tell me you think you'll beat his car if he's really putting down 350torque?
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We beat the same car when both of us were N/A, and he had more power than us then too....
Ah yes, that's when you hit the magical 1.5x 60' time..

If you want you can race him from a roll to elimate driver error..

You can't really tell me you think you'll beat his car if he's really putting down 350torque?

Don't go there with the 60' time... All I ever did was post what the slip said, so get over it already.

And at what point in time have you ever seen me post dyno #'s of our car? You know what they say when you make assumptions sir...


#'s Aren't the only thing you need to win races.
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Default Re: Jersey Mike boosted!!! 320whp 356ft lbs

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And at what point in time have you ever seen me post dyno #'s of our car?
Do you think if you raced him you would win even if he's putting down 356 torque?

Go from a 3rd gear roll so neither one of you can blame traction problems.
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Default Re: Jersey Mike boosted!!! 320whp 356ft lbs

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And at what point in time have you ever seen me post dyno #'s of our car?
Do you think if you raced him you would win even if he's putting down 356 torque?

Go from a 3rd gear roll so neither one of you can blame traction problems.

I won't be the one racing, Misti will. What do you think? If you think she will loose, then that's what you think. Confiedence can be bad for you in some cases.

She has bruised quite a few EGO's in her day.

She probably stands 20-0 record.

Long list of kills for the most part when we were N/A.

She's my secret little weapon
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I'm fairly sure that both of these kits are pretty much identical and they were both made and installed by the same company. I'm sure once Travis is dyno tuned that both cars will be at practically the same numbers. It will be an insanely close race and probably come down to driver error if they race from a stop and if they go from a roll i doubt either one will pull. Remember these cars are running almost identical kits and they were both made and installed by ZPI.
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Default Re: Jersey Mike boosted!!! 320whp 356ft lbs

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What do you think? If you think she will loose, then that's what you think. Confiedence can be bad for you in some cases.

She probably stands 20-0 record.
Listen, I'm not rating driver's here.. If he messes up and misses a gear or something then you beat the driver not the car. But if you both get good shifts and take off at the same time his car will beat your tC.

A 20-0 record doesn't mean anything to me.. It just means she hasn't raced anything with alot more power then your tC.

Let me guess one of those wins is against your bone stock 350z? Wow, you're running better then a high 13, congrats.
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keep it to PM's guys.

i dont want our ScionLife Cup Threat to get locked
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Originally Posted by Clayton1
I'm fairly sure that both of these kits are pretty much identical and they were both made and installed by the same company. I'm sure once Travis is dyno tuned that both cars will be at practically the same numbers. It will be an insanely close race and probably come down to driver error if they race from a stop and if they go from a roll i doubt either one will pull. Remember these cars are running almost identical kits and they were both made and installed by ZPI.
It's possible but I highly doubt he's putting down 350torque right now.. Maybe if he ups the boost at little.

I saw in the video how he pulled on the 350z and it would of been much worse if he had 350torque.

I've seen my dad's '03 mach1 race a few 350z and it pulled on them alot harder then that tC pulled on it. Keep in mind the mach1 is bone stock with 286whp and 302torque and weighs a good 400 pounds more then the tC.
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Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
keep it to PM's guys.

i dont want our ScionLife Cup Threat to get locked
Mybad, I was typing that last response when you posted that.
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Default Re: Jersey Mike boosted!!! 320whp 356ft lbs

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What do you think? If you think she will loose, then that's what you think. Confiedence can be bad for you in some cases.

She probably stands 20-0 record.
Listen, I'm not rating driver's here.. If he messes up and misses a gear or something then you beat the driver not the car. But if you both get good shifts and take off at the same time his car will beat your tC.

A 20-0 record doesn't mean anything to me.. It just means she hasn't raced anything with alot more power then your tC.

Let me guess one of those wins is against your bone stock 350z? Wow, you're running better then a high 13, congrats.

I guess 320hp LS1 Firebirds don't count...
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