Long overdue: APR Power In-line ECU Release (Screen shots PG7)
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So I was doing some homework with one of the engineers this week on this unit for the xB, and so far all seems like a green light for this. The cam and crank sensors thresholds and outputs for the xB 08+ appear to be the same as the tC, which was one concern for the engineer whom I was dealing with. So next step will be real world testing on the xB.
AEM tech support assures me that the ECU only looks at where the sensor signal waves cross 0V and is unaffected by the signal voltage and pattern (analog or digital). This is well outside my area of expertise. If you have any thoughts on this or could run it by someone, I'd be very appreciative.
Thanks Paul.
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That's good news. Speaking of crk and cam sensors, in the course of your FIC testing on the XB2 did you ever use an oscilloscope? I was very surprised to see that my oem crk sensor outputs a +/- 10V analog sine wave and the FIC outputs a +/- 5V digital wave form. The oem cam sensor outputs a +/- 3V analog sine wave and the FIC outputs a +/- 5V analog sine wave. The FIC ouput voltages were totally unaffected by reducing the oem sensor signal inputs. For some reason unknown to me, attenuating the already low voltage cam signal down to +/- 1V seemed to eliminate the misfires and crk sensor codes that have plagued me. Reducing the 10V crk signal only made things worse for me but Rustin (Boomslang) has been dealing with a shop with Corolla FIC issues and in their case they had success by reducing the crk signal while leaving the cam signal alone. WTF?
AEM tech support assures me that the ECU only looks at where the sensor signal waves cross 0V and is unaffected by the signal voltage and pattern (analog or digital). This is well outside my area of expertise. If you have any thoughts on this or could run it by someone, I'd be very appreciative.
Thanks Paul.
AEM tech support assures me that the ECU only looks at where the sensor signal waves cross 0V and is unaffected by the signal voltage and pattern (analog or digital). This is well outside my area of expertise. If you have any thoughts on this or could run it by someone, I'd be very appreciative.
Thanks Paul.
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I don't think that's it. If you're interested I'll call you with the details. I'd rather not post them here for the benefit of a certain individual who refused to share any info with anyone when he thought he had the solution.
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I'd be interested to hear your thoughts after all of the headaches you have been through.
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I've had this in my hands for a while now.. and will be posting up dynos for an N/A application in the next few days.. I go in for tuning on the 17th.. I will keep everyone up to speed.. and let you know what I find out...
I have high hopes for this unit based on all that I have seen ..
I have high hopes for this unit based on all that I have seen ..
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I've had this in my hands for a while now.. and will be posting up dynos for an N/A application in the next few days.. I go in for tuning on the 17th.. I will keep everyone up to speed.. and let you know what I find out...
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I have high hopes for this unit based on all that I have seen ..
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i heard he was using that now for his EMS... im hoping his results turn well... if he tosses it i might jump and try to cop one and use it to see what i can squeeze once im done with all my kinks
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No doubt.. the BC Stage II cams are in and did about what I expected..
{for those that wonder.. the MILD cams saw a loss of 6whp below 5k and a gain of 7whp over 5k and pulled all the way to redline}
Anyway the tune will be done with a full I/H/E/P/Cam Setup.. so we will see what can be pulled out of her..
Keep your phone near you Paul.. I may be calling you tomorrow.. LOL
{for those that wonder.. the MILD cams saw a loss of 6whp below 5k and a gain of 7whp over 5k and pulled all the way to redline}
Anyway the tune will be done with a full I/H/E/P/Cam Setup.. so we will see what can be pulled out of her..
Keep your phone near you Paul.. I may be calling you tomorrow.. LOL
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No doubt.. the BC Stage II cams are in and did about what I expected..
{for those that wonder.. the MILD cams saw a loss of 6whp below 5k and a gain of 7whp over 5k and pulled all the way to redline}
Anyway the tune will be done with a full I/H/E/P/Cam Setup.. so we will see what can be pulled out of her..
Keep your phone near you Paul.. I may be calling you tomorrow.. LOL
{for those that wonder.. the MILD cams saw a loss of 6whp below 5k and a gain of 7whp over 5k and pulled all the way to redline}
Anyway the tune will be done with a full I/H/E/P/Cam Setup.. so we will see what can be pulled out of her..
Keep your phone near you Paul.. I may be calling you tomorrow.. LOL
Cams are only a good investment if you spend the time tuning.
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No doubt.. the BC Stage II cams are in and did about what I expected..
{for those that wonder.. the MILD cams saw a loss of 6whp below 5k and a gain of 7whp over 5k and pulled all the way to redline}
Anyway the tune will be done with a full I/H/E/P/Cam Setup.. so we will see what can be pulled out of her..
Keep your phone near you Paul.. I may be calling you tomorrow.. LOL
{for those that wonder.. the MILD cams saw a loss of 6whp below 5k and a gain of 7whp over 5k and pulled all the way to redline}
Anyway the tune will be done with a full I/H/E/P/Cam Setup.. so we will see what can be pulled out of her..
Keep your phone near you Paul.. I may be calling you tomorrow.. LOL
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Probably has more to do with how the runner and cylinder fill now that he has changed lift and duration over stock. Those cams have effectively moved the entire power band and he is still on a stock intake manifold which has long runners. The refraction of the pressure wave which fills the port between opening and closing has probably been weakened at those rpm for the given compression of the engine. With a weakened pressure wave signal you get a lower velocity of runner and port filling which makes for a lazier engine at certain operating conditions. If he could change the VVTi settings there he could take advantage of the new lift more.
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yes i know that... hence why i would point my finger at adjustments in that range which was why i was asking parameters. im having the same issue only low in the rpm range and only for a few hundred rpms where the car bucks.