low maint. turbo
03-28-2009, 04:52 PM
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low maint. turbo
Guys and gals.
I've been in deep thoughts for the past year.. finally saved enough for a turbo, my tc is bone stock besides light lighting mods, the only engine mod I have is the k&n drop in filter. Now that I have the coin for a turbo I'm kind of getting hesitant, my cousin has an 05 civic ex turbo, that thing flies, previous owner blew the engine, swapped it out for another ex motor, gave the car to my cousin.. yes gave.. but now all that car does is sit pretty in our drive way cause he can't drive it to the mailbox without it ejaculating coolant all over the place and overheating..
I' love my car and is my daily driver but I'm not a handy man whatsoever and I want it to go faster but I don't want to have any problems, I don't want to have to tweak anything after install (installed properly by a reputable shop), I want it to be as if the car came stock with a turbo.
Here's the question..
Can I get a turbo in my car without having to worry if its going to fall apart later down the road? Or should I just keep it stock to avoid headaches (if any) that goes along with forced induction? Or just save the cash and eventually get a car that comes stock with all the power I want?
I've been in deep thoughts for the past year.. finally saved enough for a turbo, my tc is bone stock besides light lighting mods, the only engine mod I have is the k&n drop in filter. Now that I have the coin for a turbo I'm kind of getting hesitant, my cousin has an 05 civic ex turbo, that thing flies, previous owner blew the engine, swapped it out for another ex motor, gave the car to my cousin.. yes gave.. but now all that car does is sit pretty in our drive way cause he can't drive it to the mailbox without it ejaculating coolant all over the place and overheating..
I' love my car and is my daily driver but I'm not a handy man whatsoever and I want it to go faster but I don't want to have any problems, I don't want to have to tweak anything after install (installed properly by a reputable shop), I want it to be as if the car came stock with a turbo.
Here's the question..
Can I get a turbo in my car without having to worry if its going to fall apart later down the road? Or should I just keep it stock to avoid headaches (if any) that goes along with forced induction? Or just save the cash and eventually get a car that comes stock with all the power I want?
03-28-2009, 05:04 PM
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keep it stock if you want complete reliability and no headaches.. Unless you know a shop that is really good and wont screw you and that you can visit once in a while for a regular maintenance and knows what is in the car.. although a good kit will last long as the car last, its no guarantee.. even a stock car will have problems.
but unwilling to learn and hold a wrench doesnt go with forced induction, remember you cant take the car to the dealer anymore for troubleshooting since their skills are usually limited to OEM specs and they have no idea on the details on what is installed to the car..
but unwilling to learn and hold a wrench doesnt go with forced induction, remember you cant take the car to the dealer anymore for troubleshooting since their skills are usually limited to OEM specs and they have no idea on the details on what is installed to the car..
03-28-2009, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace83
keep it stock if you want complete reliability and no headaches.. Unless you know a shop that is really good and wont screw you and that you can visit once in a while for a regular maintenance and knows what is in the car.. although a good kit will last long as the car last, its no guarantee.. even a stock car will have problems.
but unwilling to learn and hold a wrench doesnt go with forced induction, remember you cant take the car to the dealer anymore for troubleshooting since their skills are usually limited to OEM specs and they have no idea on the details on what is installed to the car..
but unwilling to learn and hold a wrench doesnt go with forced induction, remember you cant take the car to the dealer anymore for troubleshooting since their skills are usually limited to OEM specs and they have no idea on the details on what is installed to the car..
03-28-2009, 06:22 PM
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a turbo car needs the same attention as an n/a car does, the only difference i see is when you first start off boosting, your paranoid about every little tick, you have to watch your afr's for a while, your just not sure how the car will react to the mods and adjustments that you make. After about 6 months or so of boosting you learn how the car handles at different temps and you get so used to the afr's that you dont really even look at it anymore unless something doesnt feel right with the car. Its been a little while since iv installed my turbo kit and i dont even look at my gauges hardly. ill check my oil pressure when i first start up but after that i just dont use them unless im tuning.
03-28-2009, 08:49 PM
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you said you have money for turbo, but what about other parst? turbo kit will need at least full exhaust, clutch upgrades... also a tune. I am sure you can manage the maintenance on the car as long as the shop you are going to installs everything right and you have a safe tune. You'll have to learn a few things about how to keep up with maintenance and its really not rocket science as long as you have basic knowledge and willing to learn
get the TURBO!
get the TURBO!
03-28-2009, 09:28 PM
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Get the turbo kit but read up on F/I to get a better idea of what it's all about. There are plenty of threads you can check out about it. Getting a car with factory boost will only give you thrills for so long and after that you'll want to upgrade the boost. So read up on your basics like AIR FUEL RATIO,BOOST PRESSURE,VACUUM,OIL PRESSURE, FUEL etc
03-28-2009, 11:15 PM
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Don't cheap out on anything and you won't run into problems. Get the PTuning kit, get a new clutch, get a new flywheel, get gauges, and have the car properly tuned. The only headaches you'll get, will be from your own mistakes.
03-28-2009, 11:25 PM
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i any orlando or surrounding areas scions going to the hot import tuner show tomorrow, i Iwill be there and hopefully i Iwill be able to see someone with a turboed tc and ill see a good set up.. thanks for your input guys. have around 6k, and I went in knowing that it was going to be a big chunk of change, cause I do want to do it right, so the tt kit or the ptuning kit is a good choice? I was looking at a greddy kit that was recomended to me. Forgot which one exactly.. 
03-29-2009, 02:58 PM
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I have met MANY MANY turbo TC owners here in So Cal and can honestly say I don't know any of them who have never came across some sort of problems with their setup.
Issues as small as fouled out spark plugs, oil leaks, blown gaskets and bad tunes, all the way to blown motors
The only Turbo Tc I have been in that felt like a stock turbo was one with a hydra standalone. Add that to the cost of a good turbo kit and you have a nice down payment on a new WRX.
I'm not trying you to discourage you from turboing your car, I'm actually working on turboing 3 cars in my club very soon. Im just telling you that stuff will happen.
Issues as small as fouled out spark plugs, oil leaks, blown gaskets and bad tunes, all the way to blown motors
The only Turbo Tc I have been in that felt like a stock turbo was one with a hydra standalone. Add that to the cost of a good turbo kit and you have a nice down payment on a new WRX.
I'm not trying you to discourage you from turboing your car, I'm actually working on turboing 3 cars in my club very soon. Im just telling you that stuff will happen.
03-29-2009, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NVMyTc
I have met MANY MANY turbo TC owners here in So Cal and can honestly say I don't know any of them who have never came across some sort of problems with their setup.
Issues as small as fouled out spark plugs, oil leaks, blown gaskets and bad tunes, all the way to blown motors
The only Turbo Tc I have been in that felt like a stock turbo was one with a hydra standalone. Add that to the cost of a good turbo kit and you have a nice down payment on a new WRX.
I'm not trying you to discourage you from turboing your car, I'm actually working on turboing 3 cars in my club very soon. Im just telling you that stuff will happen.
Issues as small as fouled out spark plugs, oil leaks, blown gaskets and bad tunes, all the way to blown motors
The only Turbo Tc I have been in that felt like a stock turbo was one with a hydra standalone. Add that to the cost of a good turbo kit and you have a nice down payment on a new WRX.
I'm not trying you to discourage you from turboing your car, I'm actually working on turboing 3 cars in my club very soon. Im just telling you that stuff will happen.
Odds are, the fouled spark plugs were caused by someone trying to street tune.
Oil leaks were caused by a sloppy install.
Blown gasket caused by overboosting or constantly driving the car like a retard.
Bad tune, obviously user error.
And I've never seen a blown motor that wasn't caused by user error.
It all comes back to the install and the tune. And the majority of the people don't understand that.
03-29-2009, 03:35 PM
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Low Maintainence Turbo Kit = No Such Thing
If you get a turbo kit, you're GOING to have problems. Period. No way around it. Depending on how much you spend and how much knowledge you have before going turbo, you'll decrease the size of those problems.
Having enough money for turbo IMO, is only half the problem. You need to get hands on with your car now and understand how it works. Whether or not you want to install it yourself, you should know how to just in case.
You should also have JIC money, Just In Case something goes wrong and you need to fix it immediately. I'd recommend at least $1500 - $2000. Also, you'll need gauges, boost controllers, clutch, LSD, exhaust, etc. All this is usually NOT told to you when you're shopping around for a kit on websites. You'll be running Premium gas from now on too...
READ, READ, READ!!! Oh the money I would have saved if I had just read a little bit more lol.
All that having been said, I still love my turbo tC, and can't wait for my new build to be finished, but be prepared to spend a lot of money, and run into problems. The more you know about how the turbo works, how your car works, and what to look out for, the less you'll hate your turbo lol.
If you get a turbo kit, you're GOING to have problems. Period. No way around it. Depending on how much you spend and how much knowledge you have before going turbo, you'll decrease the size of those problems.
Having enough money for turbo IMO, is only half the problem. You need to get hands on with your car now and understand how it works. Whether or not you want to install it yourself, you should know how to just in case.
You should also have JIC money, Just In Case something goes wrong and you need to fix it immediately. I'd recommend at least $1500 - $2000. Also, you'll need gauges, boost controllers, clutch, LSD, exhaust, etc. All this is usually NOT told to you when you're shopping around for a kit on websites. You'll be running Premium gas from now on too...
READ, READ, READ!!! Oh the money I would have saved if I had just read a little bit more lol.
All that having been said, I still love my turbo tC, and can't wait for my new build to be finished, but be prepared to spend a lot of money, and run into problems. The more you know about how the turbo works, how your car works, and what to look out for, the less you'll hate your turbo lol.