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Old 04-29-2008, 01:06 PM
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burning oil?
oil is blue, white is fuel .. but could be the seals too.

fuel is black, oil is blue, coolant is white
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Old 04-29-2008, 06:41 PM
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Any difference in lag or anything with the watercooled turbo? How much is the kit for it? I have to send the turbo in tommarrow i just got my invoice number from them today
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Originally Posted by canadian48205
Any difference in lag or anything with the watercooled turbo? How much is the kit for it? I have to send the turbo in tommarrow i just got my invoice number from them today
no difference as long as specs are same.. but it makes the turbo more durable since it takes away the heat from the turbo when you shut it off reducing/preventing oil to burn inside that could clog and destroy the bearings.. you getting ballbearing?
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so it would be comparable to the turbo timer?
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:55 PM
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yes but acts on a different way.. it in fact is more useful than a t turbo timer on a non race setup.. no matter how long you set the turbo timer when you shut off, the turbo is always gonna be hot and oil on the turbo will burn some and may build up after sometime..with watercooled setup, coolant will continued to flow to the turbo while the boiling coolant goes out and takes away the heat.. in mild boost or non race application, turbotimer is not necessary and watercooled setup will be more beneficial
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:33 PM
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You still want to run a turbo timer with the watercooled turbo. Water cooled turbos just keep the bearing cooler during everyday driving. Turbo Timer are used to cool the engine oil down to a idle temp before shut down.

I would never run a turbo without a TT unless you'd sit in the car for a few minutes after you arrive to be safe.


On another note. Turbonetcis is the only turbo company to make BB turbo with oil cooled sections only.....that I know of. I can tell you that the water cooled turbo on my brothers tC has lasted long the the 3 he had before it put together. The water line kit is something like $100. You could easily piece together your own.
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Old 05-01-2008, 12:10 AM
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Yes it is ballbearing and what would i need to run a water cooled turbo to make my own kit?? Where does the turbo get the water from? sry i sound kinda ignorant here but im not familiar with water cooled turbos at all.
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:07 AM
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So i looked it up is all i would need would be the fittings for the turbo housing and to t fittings plus the lines?
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^^ yes sir, you need 2 fittings for the turbo, and 2 T fittings to tap the coolant line.. here's what mine looked like



search for watercooled turbo here there's other pics too
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Thanks that helps
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Old 04-05-2009, 11:19 PM
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i just noticed, that i have blueish/white smoke coming from the exhaust on my Dezod turbo kit as well, i only had it for about 2 weeks and its weird... its not all the time thou, only when i revved it i noticed it..
i have only 1 cat , is it possible that it does it because of that ? or for sure something is wrong ?
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:31 AM
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I took off cold side charge pipe from the turbo and there was absolutely NO oil anywhere visible.

any ideas guys ?

P.S. my idle is stable at14.6-15.0 just like it was before, there are no smoke in the engine.. nothing abnormal at all..

Is it possible that i filled up with some flipped up fuel yestarday and it has some water in it or something ?
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Old 04-06-2009, 01:52 AM
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do a compression test. do you have an oil catch can? Is your valve cover vent plumbed into your turbo intake pipe? was it cold out when this happened?
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:23 AM
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no i dont have an oil cathc can.. do you recommend i get one ?
yes the vent is connected with 5/8'' heater hose.
it was a little chilli outside due to cold wind today in San Angelo but not like cold cold.
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an easy way to see if a ring landing is done fo - this is the most common issue on the tc when detonation occurs - is to remove the breather hose - let the motor heat up to normal temp - see if you can feel air blowing out the crankcase vent. If you can than its most likely ring landings destroyyed and id do a compression check to verify. Just fyi - just because you feel nothing doesnt mean you have perfect compression this will just allow you to see if you have moderate to severe blowby usually indicative of damaged ring landings, cracked pistons or severely damaged piston rings. You could have slightly low compression due to worn rings but not feel any significant blowby - just fyi.
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Originally Posted by thendawg
an easy way to see if a ring landing is done fo - this is the most common issue on the tc when detonation occurs - is to remove the breather hose - let the motor heat up to normal temp - see if you can feel air blowing out the crankcase vent. If you can than its most likely ring landings destroyyed and id do a compression check to verify. Just fyi - just because you feel nothing doesnt mean you have perfect compression this will just allow you to see if you have moderate to severe blowby usually indicative of damaged ring landings, cracked pistons or severely damaged piston rings. You could have slightly low compression due to worn rings but not feel any significant blowby - just fyi.
yeah what he said
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Originally Posted by RusWolf
no i dont have an oil cathc can.. do you recommend i get one ?
yes the vent is connected with 5/8'' heater hose.
it was a little chilli outside due to cold wind today in San Angelo but not like cold cold.
well it could be just paranoia. did the smoke linger kinda? i would recommend a catch can just for grins, but dont cheap out on the ebay ones, i did and it didnt catch any oil. The intake and exit of the catch can are soo close that oil never droped to the bottom of the can, instead it just passed through and into my turbo intake. I always wondered why ther was never any oil showing on the sight glass...lol
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lol yea - catch cans are supposed to be baffled thus it causes the oil to hit the baffle and drip down into the can to collect - air moves under the baffle than out into the intake
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Originally Posted by thendawg
lol yea - catch cans are supposed to be baffled thus it causes the oil to hit the baffle and drip down into the can to collect - air moves under the baffle than out into the intake
yeah i wanted to stuff some of those copper scrubing pads and place a tube to extend the inlet side, but when i got the can i couldnt do it without cutting the can in two....lol
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if i boost again ill just make my own catch can....i have a few ideas
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