deeravenger

anyone, i need help, i have spent 3k in the motor cp pistons manley rods arp main and head studs acl bearings. stock crank and stock head. last weekend i got the whole motor assembled and in the car.. the motor turned over a couple times but not enough to get the car runing. the battery was dead. i didnt have the money last week to buy a battery, iam also in college so this weekend i come home buy a battery and put it in the car.. now the starter turns but the engine doesnt... which means the engine is sizzed.. cant spell, iam a little upset. so my question is what do i do? can i put some oil in the spark plug hole and try to turn it over? someone please help

m6ar2cel6oTC

Search this forum there are dozens of threads on here wi people that had the same problem as you! It even happen to me. 9 out of 10 times is the timing off.

brett561tc

im confused. how is your starter turning, but your engine not? do you mean that your engine isn't firing?

m6ar2cel6oTC

I think that's what he meant lol.

deeravenger

i wish i could take a video of it.. the motor will not turn at all.. even with a wrench on the crank, but if you put the wrench in the off poistion it will rotate.. i figured out what it was, i believe it is timing. iam guessing the value is hitting the piston.

a-mendoza

iTrader: (2)

ouch. looks like its time for a little disasembling again. to fix your timing. Hope i get it right the first time when it comes to my build

brett561tc

someone should make a sticky on how to set initial timing when installing the motor. if i remember correctly, it has something to do with people using the wrong mark on the cam gears. if yamaha16 can chime in that would be nice, i think he knows what the problem was.

a-mendoza

iTrader: (2)

Well if there isnt one made by the time i do my build, i may have to take the time to try and make one.

TooCool_07

ya has to be timing. had this happened to me once on a different motor rebuild.

another thing would be distributor but the tC doesnt use one.

m6ar2cel6oTC

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...=164921&page=5

Check that whole thread and make sure you check page 4 & 5.
If not do a search for more topics

thendawg

iTrader: (2)

Yea i think when folks are aligning the marks they are using the Dot with an E by it on the exhaust cam. The exhaust cam has 3 marks, one dot with an I by it, one dot with an E by it, and a hash mark with nothing by it. It needs to be timed to the hash mark. If you REALLY need a pic I guess I can go out in the garage -my cams are laying on a table

Prophecy2k4

Pics would be really helpful to the people that are yet to do it and don't know which marks you are referring to.

I know when I reassembled my engine, I had a hell of a time figuring out which mark the service manual wants you to follow. It wasn't until I took note of crank position that I actually analyzed and figured out which valves should be in the open position and which should be closed that I decided which has mark to use.

m6ar2cel6oTC

There should be a sticky for every lil mark you have to align on the motor. It seems to be always a marking not aligned.

gingles

iTrader: (1)

page 7 of marcelos thread shows the correct timing marks from the cam gear side. check it out.

Prophecy2k4

Good find. I got it right last time, but pic saved anyways.

yamaha16bw

Yea as long as people use the toyota service manual then you wont have any issues. Mine fired up it the first few seconds after I primed the oil system. I'm having trouble logging onto photobucket now but my pics on the correct timing marks are posted somewhere.

m6ar2cel6oTC

Lok here yamaha you should be banned from the forum till you show some car progress or at least a dyne sheet track sheet something. Your car is one of the builds I really like!

yamaha16bw

haha well to be honest ive only put about 2k miles on the new motor. Ive only driven it twice this year. I do however have a dyno day setup for may 23rd. so be ready.

m6ar2cel6oTC

Ooooooooooooohhhh shiznit. Goodluck. How much boost? What turbo again?

yamaha16bw

Garrett GT 37 with FP stainless housing. Not sure about the boost yet. I'm at 10 mow on a street tune. Whatever she will take i guess.