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Old 06-18-2007, 11:28 PM
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Like i said before, DONT BOOST ON A BUDGET
Well, I can do a kit and go up to 350 WHP with GOOD tuning and a standalone, then I should be ok without internals. Right? LOL

you don't need a standalone for 350whp there are guys above that on emanage's and soon to be aem's piggyback system.

here is an honest question. have you done ANY research on a turbo other then look at kits and see what they come with?
Well, not sure what to research on really. Like on how it works or something? I'm a total noob at this. But, I'm learning tho.
look up old posts. and read them. then go to www.howthingswork.com you can get a basic understanding of how a turbo works. i said this earlier it's not as simple as buying a kit and pushing the limits.
The last thing I wanna do is push it to it's limits. I have a basic understanding of how it works tho. Just not like 30 years worth of turbo work experience. LOL, but yea, you in CO? LOL, I'm down in the Springs, maybe we can cruise someday.
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So, ok, including the Stage 2 Long Block and ALL that, how much is all that?
do you know how to use a calculator?? or do you just prefer having other people do your work for you??
(sarcasm) No, I don't.....
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well 350whp is pushing pretty damn hard.
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well 350whp is pushing pretty damn hard.
I just want 325WHP to begin with and to use for awhile until I can do internals.
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lets put it this way bro. you're in CO. you're only going to get like 240 - 250 whp from a turbo. there is a HUGE difference in power up here. so you want to ad 75hp. and a stand alone and a piggy back arent going to do that.
you want over 300hp prepare 13 or so grand. and call me when you have it i'll take you to a reliable shop.

then when you blow your engine up i can get you a new one at whole sale
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lets put it this way bro. you're in CO. you're only going to get like 240 - 250 whp from a turbo. there is a HUGE difference in power up here. so you want to ad 75hp. and a stand alone and a piggy back arent going to do that.
you want over 300hp prepare 13 or so grand. and call me when you have it i'll take you to a reliable shop.

then when you blow your engine up i can get you a new one at whole sale
LOL, well, Dezod's kit gives like 275WHP out of the box, BUT, I can have him change a few parts out to make it to where it goes up to 300WHP to start with, then with good tuning and a little crank up on the boost ****, then I should have 300WHP to start off.
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I wouldn't push more then 300hp on a stock motor. I'm instlaling my kit, running low boost and looking for 300 with no internals and no management, just to see what the kit does by itself. I'll get the AEM F/IC (piggyback) within a month of that, and hopefully get pistons, rods and bearings (bottom end build) after we see what kinda of packages Turbo Toyotas puts out. Then with that, I think I should be good for 400hp, maybe 450. That should be plenty.
Already got suspension done, and tires are on the way. Still need a clutch, engine mounts, so, yeah. You gotta pay to play.
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I wouldn't push more then 300hp on a stock motor. I'm instlaling my kit, running low boost and looking for 300 with no internals and no management, just to see what the kit does by itself. I'll get the AEM F/IC (piggyback) within a month of that, and hopefully get pistons, rods and bearings (bottom end build) after we see what kinda of packages Turbo Toyotas puts out. Then with that, I think I should be good for 400hp, maybe 450. That should be plenty.
Already got suspension done, and tires are on the way. Still need a clutch, engine mounts, so, yeah. You gotta pay to play.
So, turbo kit, piggyback, rods, pistons, bearings, can get you to 400WHP?
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I wouldn't push more then 300hp on a stock motor. I'm instlaling my kit, running low boost and looking for 300 with no internals and no management, just to see what the kit does by itself. I'll get the AEM F/IC (piggyback) within a month of that, and hopefully get pistons, rods and bearings (bottom end build) after we see what kinda of packages Turbo Toyotas puts out. Then with that, I think I should be good for 400hp, maybe 450. That should be plenty.
Already got suspension done, and tires are on the way. Still need a clutch, engine mounts, so, yeah. You gotta pay to play.
So, turbo kit, piggyback, rods, pistons, bearings, can get you to 400WHP?
pretty much. youll need a good clutch too.
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Depending on the kit and the tune...yes.
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lets put it this way bro. you're in CO. you're only going to get like 240 - 250 whp from a turbo. there is a HUGE difference in power up here. so you want to ad 75hp. and a stand alone and a piggy back arent going to do that.
you want over 300hp prepare 13 or so grand. and call me when you have it i'll take you to a reliable shop.

then when you blow your engine up i can get you a new one at whole sale
LOL, well, Dezod's kit gives like 275WHP out of the box, BUT, I can have him change a few parts out to make it to where it goes up to 300WHP to start with, then with good tuning and a little crank up on the boost ****, then I should have 300WHP to start off.
DUDE....... it's not that simple as changing a few parts. thoes numbers are given at sea level your over a freaking mile high. you will only get 220 up here at most.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/horsepower.htm read these
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actually read everything that mentions horsepower at all
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Originally Posted by Syldrin
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lets put it this way bro. you're in CO. you're only going to get like 240 - 250 whp from a turbo. there is a HUGE difference in power up here. so you want to ad 75hp. and a stand alone and a piggy back arent going to do that.
you want over 300hp prepare 13 or so grand. and call me when you have it i'll take you to a reliable shop.

then when you blow your engine up i can get you a new one at whole sale
LOL, well, Dezod's kit gives like 275WHP out of the box, BUT, I can have him change a few parts out to make it to where it goes up to 300WHP to start with, then with good tuning and a little crank up on the boost ****, then I should have 300WHP to start off.
DUDE....... it's not that simple as changing a few parts. thoes numbers are given at sea level your over a freaking mile high. you will only get 220 up here at most.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/horsepower.htm read these
Someone said we get more HP as the air is more dense up here...
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wtf no. the air is less dense up here. we get WAY less.
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Originally Posted by 20tCDude05
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lets put it this way bro. you're in CO. you're only going to get like 240 - 250 whp from a turbo. there is a HUGE difference in power up here. so you want to ad 75hp. and a stand alone and a piggy back arent going to do that.
you want over 300hp prepare 13 or so grand. and call me when you have it i'll take you to a reliable shop.

then when you blow your engine up i can get you a new one at whole sale
LOL, well, Dezod's kit gives like 275WHP out of the box, BUT, I can have him change a few parts out to make it to where it goes up to 300WHP to start with, then with good tuning and a little crank up on the boost ****, then I should have 300WHP to start off.
DUDE....... it's not that simple as changing a few parts. thoes numbers are given at sea level your over a freaking mile high. you will only get 220 up here at most.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/horsepower.htm read these
Someone said we get more HP as the air is more dense up here...
dont listen to them. air gets thinner at higher altitudes.
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Originally Posted by Syldrin
wtf no. the air is less dense up here. we get WAY less.
Damn, what a crappy place to have a turbo in. This truly blows.
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no actualy it's a great place for a turbo. just a crappy place for an all motor.
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Originally Posted by Syldrin
no actualy it's a great place for a turbo. just a crappy place for an all motor.
I'm confused now. LOL
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Originally Posted by Syldrin
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That is insane!! Cost more than a turbo kit itself.
cars are expensive

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That is insane!! Cost more than a turbo kit itself.
cars are expensive

took you long enough.
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