new clutch in, but a hitch...
02-24-2009, 10:44 PM
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new clutch in, but a hitch...
well... went to the dealer today, expecting my new clutch (comp clutch stage 2) to be good to go. it was, but the engagement point is literally 0.25 inches - perhaps less - off the floor. it is very difficult to drive like this, so I was wondering if this is normal, or indicative of either a need for some kind of pedal adjustment or perhaps a problem with the clutch slave cylinder.
the dealer is checking it out some more, but I was hoping to get some further insight, as searching the forums has not yielded an exact match to this issue.
the dealer is checking it out some more, but I was hoping to get some further insight, as searching the forums has not yielded an exact match to this issue.
02-24-2009, 11:01 PM
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I dont remember off the top of my head and I dont have the instructions anymore. this was about a year ago we did mine. But I do know it has to be done, the travel of each cluch and pressure plate is different.
02-24-2009, 11:40 PM
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it isnt the rapidity of engagement that is the problem - I took it for a run around the block and found it more than acceptable in that respect... I have no problem with easing into it. the problem is that I have to literally try to put it thru the floor to disengage the clutch, and then keep the pedal mashed to the floor as hard as possible during the shift lest it try to grab.
02-25-2009, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rozz-tC
I dont remember off the top of my head and I dont have the instructions anymore. this was about a year ago we did mine. But I do know it has to be done, the travel of each cluch and pressure plate is different.
Originally Posted by rozz-tC
They need to adjust the clutch pedal, should be done after any clutch job. There own instructions tell them to also, we did my clutch right off the toyota pages and it says to adjust it.
Originally Posted by Crippie
how do you adjust it?
Originally Posted by Crippie
at what point does air get into the line? do you guys disconnect the slave cylinder at any point?
Originally Posted by unxpectederror
like some had said, bleed the clutch.. sounds like air in the line to me
Originally Posted by ElevationTC
Deff Air in the line! Bleed it again and again! I did it about 6 times untill mine was perfect. Ive done about 5 clutches in Tc's
*************** FOR THE OP AND ALL WHO READ THIS ********
after you install your clutch or any agressive clutch especially on this car you WILL notice the engagement point go down to the floor as stated by the OP. this is normal and clutch pedal adjustments need to be made in order to make it smoother for the driver and help the clutch last longer during the break in period
TO ADJUST THE PEDAL DO THIS.
1. remove the spring behind the clutch pedal on both the pedal and the firewall ( its the only gray spring there and its what provides tension on the clutch. you can use your fingers but i always use a screw driver (flat head) to pop it off with ease
2. locate the gold push rod that goes directly horizonally behind the pedal. there you will follow the rod inward towards the cabin and find a 12mm tension bolt followed by a gold 1" long cyclinder. *use a flash light if u cant see under your car depending on the lighting*
3. take a 12mm wrench and loosen the 12mm bolt (turning down to loosen it)
4. now that you have cracked the 12mm nut GENTLY apply some pressure to the pedal with one hand and with the other hand GENTLY turn the gold pushrod in the same direction as you did to loosen the pedal. you will notice what you are doing is now expanding the distance between the pushrods original point and inscreasing the distance. THIS will adjust the pedal so it engages HIGHER and not so close to the floor.
5. You should use small 1/2 cycle to 1 full turn in increments to correctly adjust the pedal to YOUR desired engagement point. once you have adjusted the rod grab your 12mm open end wrench and tighten the nut again. then attached the spring again on the pedal and fire wall holes
6. test your engagement on the clutch by going into reverse and / 1st gear.. you will notice the engagement (if you did it right) has now become higher up on the pedal.
7. if you do not like the engagement point repeat the steps over by loosening the 12mm nut and adjusting the rod to a new position until you find an engagement point that you like and that you can drive with comfortably!!
8. ONCE you have found your own sweet spot give the 12mm a nice tight turn and your done.
AND THAT IS HOW YOU CORRECTLY DO IT!!
*** OP ***
if you want me to help you out since your local to me in south florida hit me up and ill be glad to help ya out... BUT the dealership techs should be able to adjust it for you if they follow the shop manual.
02-25-2009, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TCpete
EXACTLY.. ON A PROPER INSTALL... you do not need to disconnect the clutch lines on this car to redo the clutch... HOW can air go into sealed lines... ANYONE who says bleed the clutch for this car is dead wrong since there it no way air goes into the lines since you are not disconnecting any of it from the actual cylinder...
FALSE on both read above
Originally Posted by unxpectederror
like some had said, bleed the clutch.. sounds like air in the line to me
Originally Posted by ElevationTC
Deff Air in the line! Bleed it again and again! I did it about 6 times untill mine was perfect. Ive done about 5 clutches in Tc's
02-25-2009, 03:35 PM
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^^+1 I was about to say.
I've changed my tranny twice, and have changed clutches 3 times in my tC alone, and a couple of times on my boys tC's.
Not ONCE have I ever bleed the clutch line. To be honest, I've never even adjusted the clutch pedal. I run a Stg 4.
I've changed my tranny twice, and have changed clutches 3 times in my tC alone, and a couple of times on my boys tC's.
Not ONCE have I ever bleed the clutch line. To be honest, I've never even adjusted the clutch pedal. I run a Stg 4.
02-25-2009, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
^^+1 I was about to say.
I've changed my tranny twice, and have changed clutches 3 times in my tC alone, and a couple of times on my boys tC's.
Not ONCE have I ever bleed the clutch line. To be honest, I've never even adjusted the clutch pedal. I run a Stg 4.
I've changed my tranny twice, and have changed clutches 3 times in my tC alone, and a couple of times on my boys tC's.
Not ONCE have I ever bleed the clutch line. To be honest, I've never even adjusted the clutch pedal. I run a Stg 4.
02-25-2009, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
^^+1 I was about to say.
I've changed my tranny twice, and have changed clutches 3 times in my tC alone, and a couple of times on my boys tC's.
Not ONCE have I ever bleed the clutch line. To be honest, I've never even adjusted the clutch pedal. I run a Stg 4.
I've changed my tranny twice, and have changed clutches 3 times in my tC alone, and a couple of times on my boys tC's.
Not ONCE have I ever bleed the clutch line. To be honest, I've never even adjusted the clutch pedal. I run a Stg 4.
Traffic = Dead LEG! The worst I have taken this clutch through was when I signed up with my crew to be in a small town Parade. Stop and Go ever half inch....lets just say my leg was in limp mode when I got of the car, and I vowed to never put my car in a parade ever again.
I probably could adjust the clutch pedal for more comfort, but I actually like it engaging as soon as I lift. My work schedule and destinations allow me to avoid traffic though....